Its a 160, that means about 16 metric tone. Thats how all the foreign excavators are sized/ modeled. and the compact tractor is real light. The more you can combine on one load, the more it pays.
Would You Haul This?
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by longhoodpete, Oct 13, 2013.
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Why are we continuing to go back to the weight of the shovel? Lol I have stated several times it's a jf160lc not a jd160clc or jd160dlc which are different machines and different weights.
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I pull a 50 eager beaver detach quite a bit moving machines for small contractors and for the equipment repair side of our business. We use a hook with 5 links on it and a ratchet binder from inside the tracks to trailer then chain the bucket on the trackhoe, or blade if dozer also if it has a ripper got to chain it separate. I have been stopped many times in AR and as long as the binder and hook are rated for load its a pass. I wouldn't have had a bit of problem hauling it. I'm not saying that cross chaining isn't stronger or better I'm merely stating that the way it was done is sufficient.
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As someone else mentioned up there^, your way is effectively cross chained without running chain all the way to the other side. It's how I see most guys who haul them big hoes on regular basis do it.Last edited: Oct 14, 2013
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You know you are right it does pull it both ways side to side.
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Exactly on the 16 metric tonnes (on the sized/modeled). 16 metric tonnes = 35,274 lbs
Now that figure, in itself, does not necessarily mean the equipment weighs 35, 200 lbs, but it does represent an operating weight of the equipment to be fairly close/approximate to that weight, and certainly not a drastic deviation down to 27,000 lbs, as the OP is stating.
We're going back to that weight because it's simply an anomaly to say "your" Deere 160 LC weighs 27,000 lbs, instead of it's spec'd weight (thru Deere, RitchieSpecs, & numerous sources) of roughly 35,000 lbs minimum. The base weight of the Deere 160 is what is dominant, and whether it is a lc, clc, or dlc model are insignificant for any drastic weight variation, as you claim. These model "letters" represent upgrades in design, engine changes, and other "upgrades" (example: clc has larger upgraded viewing/window area than lc).
None of which subtract or add drastically to the 35-39k general weight for a 16 tonne rated excavator. The variations between the lc, clc, & dlc may change the weight plus or minus 3,000 lbs, at most, from an "base" figure of 37,000 lbs. And that is being "generous".
However, giving you my version of a "trial before conviction" under the circumstances, I called 2 Deere dealers, who move/receive this equipment. I was met by nearly uncontrolled laughter when I asked if a 10 year old Deere 160 LC could possibly weigh anything close to 27,000 lbs. Both stated that even their Deere 130 (smaller 13 ton machine) even weighs 29,500 lbs without any blade/bucket. They also stated there was absolutely no possible way ANY Deere 160 could weigh anything even close to 27k, and would be between 34k (bare minimum) to upwards of 38k.
So yes, I'd have to see it pulled onto the Cat scale in person, to see that 27k weight. I may be wrong tho, maybe the counterweight & drive gearing were stolen outta it.:smt102 -
Could that load be legally hauled? I say probably so.
The Current iteration of the Deere 160 comes in at 39,685 LBS as per Deere's website.
The tractor appears to be a Kubota, I can not see any model numbers on it, but going with the largest of the non backhoe Kubota's the B series model 3300 it weighs 1,929 LBS
That is only 41,614 LBS total.
I am not sure where the empty weights on your truck/trailer are, but your trailer does appear to be a 48' 10'6" spread, If your trailer is 11K lbs, 60% on the rear, 40% up front empty + 21,000 for your truck. Thus assuming empty your front axle is 12K, your Drives are 13,400 and Trailer is 6,600.
Thus on the rear of the truck it could take 33,400 lbs before being overloaded, thus by having the machine far enough forward to put about 1/4 its weight forward you could be perfectly legal, and still have the Kubota on there.
The only thing I don't particularily care for on the load is I always will add a chain to the crawler frame if it has tie downs to keep it from coming forward if I am in a wreck, and I am really not too fond of how the Kubota is tied down. Id much rather see it handled with frame hooks than a strap going over the foot well. Perhaps there is something I am not seeing, but it looks to me like if you were in a wreck or had to panic stop that the Kubota could have come forward. -
A load like that it so routine, I can't figure why anyone would bother to even post a pic.
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Because it shows how full of it some people are.
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If you look carefully the Kubota is chained through the rear tire and there is a chain that spears to go through the loader or front of the tractor in addition to the straps.
longhoodpete Thanks this.
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