Would you hook straps this way?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Bdog, Dec 8, 2015.

  1. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    This is from the Fontaine manual. I would not do it this way. I know they changed the regs where straps can go outside the rub rail but why?

    Interestingly they also state the 6" channel side rail frame is not an attachment point and not to hook to it.
     

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  3. Oscar the KW

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    I've done that, only so the strap comes thru the rub rail and not the outside.
     
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  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Back when I ran skateboards I used the method depicted in the upper right picture. That way I could tuck some excess between the rail and the deck to help it stay put while I made my around to the other side to tighten it down.
     
  5. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    Yes that is what I would do if not hooking to frame rail. Same way as their pic but strap running up inside the rain instead of out.

    Also I notice they only rate the strap attachment point at 5000b WLL. 3" straps are good for that. Why bother with 4" if this is the weakest link?
     
  6. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    If you have a used trailer most likely you won't be able to do that because the forklifts have hit it enough that it won't go through every where.
     
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  7. RustyBolt

    RustyBolt Road Train Member

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    I know that the methods shown are the way most people hook their straps (including me when I was pulling a flat). But that is not how they should be hooked. They should be ran between the rub rail and the bed and attached under the bed of the trailer. The rub rail is there to protect your straps from being cut if something comes into contact with your trailer. Not to mention the fact that the rub rail is the weakest part of the trailer. However, DOT doesn't say anything about it. And a lot of trailers don't really have any place to hook a strap other than the rub rail. Do what ya gotta do. I'm just pointing out that there are sometimes better ways (depending on your trailer) to hook straps.
     
  8. Heavy Hammer

    Heavy Hammer Road Train Member

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    No I wouldn't.
    I agree with @RustyBolt, rubrails are to protect your straps, not anchor points.
    Oh yeah, and BC will give you a ticket for that.
     
  9. Ridgeline

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    I too agree with rustybolt, the purpose of the rub rail is to protect the strap and other securement things. I sometimes get trucks loaded and ready to go when I arrive at a customers place, if they are setup outside the rub rail, I take all the straps off and do it right. Sometimes that will delay me 30 minutes or so but I do it right. Another reason is I seem to run into the same county cop who will cite anyone for this.
     
  10. MrEd

    MrEd Road Train Member

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    I agree with you. Straps should be behind the rail and hooked under the trailer bed. But, I can tell you that some trailer manufacturers, Benson for one, says the edges of their trailers are not rated as securement points. That you should use the rub rail, or the chain tie downs only. I didn't like it, but it was what we were told to do at that company I worked for. For a time, all they had was Bensons. We even had a statement from Benson in our permit book that explained that their rubrail was the "engineered securement point" on their trailers.
     
  11. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    That is what the fontaine manual says as well. The rub rail is welded to to the frame rail. I don't see how the rub rail could be a good securement point and the frame not since the rub rail is welded to the frame rail.
     
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