Your thoughts on a lease program

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  1. KenworthGuyNH

    KenworthGuyNH Road Train Member

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    Eloquent! Very well stated.
     
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    Would PROFILING work better?
     
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    Profiling is a way of life,,,meaning it is the first sense a human uses to "scope" or get a sense of, another human,,hell even animals for that matter. I cant stand the ones that complain about profiliing,,it is a way of life...period. You don't want to fit a certain "profile" than don't act, dress or be around that "certain" profile...HOOAH!
     
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    and if the profile is based on race............hey, thats not YOUR problem
     
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    Police departments practice a form of stereotyping known as profiling, are you seriously trying to suggest that officers who use this kind of discernment are ignorant?
     
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    If there was zero basis in reality then stereotyping would not exist. Stereotyping exists because there is some basis in reality that supports the stereotype....

    Ok, I'll submit your following comment as exhibit A.

    You've just made a value based judgment.... and created a stereotype composed of..... those who stereotype.
     
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    The stereotype is derived from experience, the sum total of the viewer's experiences have led the viewer to the conclusion, a belief, that there is a high probability that the subject who is under observation by the viewer, fits the viewer's preconceived notion.

    Now, in my above sentence, is the belief unfounded, or well founded?

    The answer is, it depends....

    Ok, depends on what??

    The amount of experience.

    It's why they, stereotypes, exist. The stereotype is a reality based value judgment based upon experience.

    Potential creditors make value judgments based upon credit scores....
     
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    Hi, bbblotliz. Here's an easy one to illustrate why stereotypes are real, value based judgments.... and also why they're unfair.

    I have a large car, a big pretty truck with an extended hood that stands out as being an o/o'er rig.....

    I have had more random roadside DOT inspections, (5), in the three years of owning that truck than I ever had in 14 years as a company driver in a fleet truck, (0).

    Am I being profiled when this happens??

    Absolutely.

    Is it merited or unmerited??

    In my opinion it's unmerited as I run legal.

    In the opinion of the officer, it's merited and based upon the profile that I fit within, the stereotype... he, or she, has determined that I'm a prime candidate for having a logbook infraction.....

    Now, the question is.....

    How did the officer come to the conclusion, the predetermined opinion, that I should be the one inspected?
     
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    I agree with you on your above scenerio TREES... I understand a scenerio like; a DOT officer sees a truck with a dash full of paperwork, dirty like it hasn't been washed in a year and says to himself; "self, I bet that driver has something worth looking at".
     
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    Race is part of profiling.. Until you actually talk to someone, all you have is your sight. Aint it great that we are NOT all the same.....