Intrastate vs interstate permits

Intrastate permits

Might help

 

Remember though you only need the intrastate if the load is intrastate. I know, it's redundant, but...
It's the load that matters not the driver like most people/companies think. I.e. the the load is relayed from, for example, Oklahoma to say Denton. Even though you only touched it from Denton to deliver it to Midland it's still an Interstate run. Same for containers out of Houston Port and loads from Mexico picked up in Loredo. All that is interstate.
Only runs that the full load never crosses a state (or country) line is intrastate, and only those loads need an intrastate permit.

 

No, its were the load originates, Ok to Texas is Interstate. The carriers I have been leased to for the past 20 years only had the truck on a list, Maybe you have your on # s

 

I don't disagree with that statement
however

 

Maybe Texas state police don't care. I don't have enough experience to say. Other states do like California and Pennsylvania to name two I've had experience with.
But "in a legal sense" well, the legal system cares as it's the law.

 

INTRA-state is all cargo originates from and delivers to a single state. Pick up widgets at manufacturing in Lubbock, deliver widgets to assembly company in San Antonio.

INTER-state the cargo originated or is destined to any location out side of a single state.

You need proper permits and authority for each.

 

How do you define ''originates''. NO loads completely originates in 1 place except maybe raw materials. It would seem as long as you have the proper permits it doesn't matter where the load comes from originally. If you do point to point in a state then the load originated in that state as far as the truck goes.

If we unload it and put it on another trailer does that change anything?

I have picked up steel loads where the BL say Antwerp belgium 100000 tons and sold to a place in Buffalo HOw do you BL that. but delivers to Toronto Is that interstating.

The simple answer is you make out your own BL and carry on as if you knew what you were doing.

 

I have no idea what the Texas intrastate laws are. I just wanted to chime in on this intrastate/interstate discussion. There is no reason to over-complicate what they are for regulatory purposes. Simply put, the FMCSA goes by the shipper's intent when making out the bills. This means a driver operating a CMV NOT properly permitted for interstate commerce can get into serious trouble if they have a bill showing an out of state origin or final. Again, the key document is that bill.