Have a w900L with
4.11 rears
Tall 22.5s
super 10 and
c-15 (6nz) set at 490 hp.
Basically my problem is that I can't keep it above 5 mpg running at 65.
My other truck I can get about 6 mpg running 70. But it's a 3406e (5ek motor, 1lw ecm), 3.31s (close to this) 13 speed running low pro 24.5
I know I'd get marginal gain out of running tall rubber 24.5s, which is an option, but I really don't think it'll be anywhere near enough to get to decent mpg running 70
If I had nothing but money, I'd guess my priorities would be
3.55 gears
13 speed
*Maybe* 24.5 tall rubber
Longer term I'm thinking about maybe adding about 3-4 feet to the wheelbase, so is the 13 speed or taller rubber and just drive slower the ticket?
What are your thoughts?
Current area is generally michigan to northern georgia, ohio to Kansas, draw a circle and that's 95% of it, so quite a few 70 mph states
Currently she pulls a conestoga and the occasional box/reefer, I'd LIKE to put it under an open flat, but may go for just a better conestoga (if I don't stretch it)
Any opinions are welcome, but bear in mind my goal is about 70 mph at 6 mpg (higher would be nice, but 6 ought to be doable) at the above stated areas
Thanks for your time
W900 that's way too slow.
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by skallagrime, Jan 9, 2021.
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4.11 is your issue.
I have 4.11 and 24.5 on my T800 and can’t break anything higher than 5mpg ( and I only drive 55 )Aamcotrans, Crude Truckin' and Rideandrepair Thank this. -
Those 4.11 gears are the problem. With that super 10. A set of 3.42 would probably be what you want.
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355s w/ LP 24.5s. Or 3.31 w/ LP 22.5s might be the ticket. Final drive ratios on the trans are the same.only difference would be when down shifting on a hill w/ 13 or 18 spd. Best to look up Eaton RPM charts. Compare the numbers with what you already have on both Trucks. Ideally matching cruising speed to most efficient RPMs in torque range for the engine. Might be best to go with 331s or 335s whatever, keeping yourself 22.5s. You could always go up to 11R22.5s or Lp 24.5s if lower cruising RPMs is needed. LP24.5s will be a very little bit lower RPMs. Hardly worth the extra cost to change out Wheels and tires. But supposedly Low pros get better mpg’s than tall tires. Due to less flex and rolling resistance. Aside from mpg’s , I’ll bet your Trucks fun to drive now, with the 4.11s. Walking up hills. Going much lower than 331s, causing more downshifting, especially with the 10 spd vs. a 13 spd. Might defeat any fuel economy gains. Study the charts, they’re interesting.
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Cost vs reward. How many miles are you gonna have to turn to see a return on investment from a (generous) 1 mpg gain?
Personally I wouldn't stick a penny into it until needed. When tires wear out, change them. When a diff is on the way out, regear it. When the transmission is worn out, upgrade to the 13 speed.ProfessionalNoticer, Oxbow, black_dog106 and 12 others Thank this. -
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Do you have a nose cone on your Conestoga?
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I do agree run it it breaks then make the wanted changes.Oxbow, baha and God prefers Diesels Thank this. -
Well, my long wheelbase t600(94) makes 6, so I can't say I think a short wheelbase Even though it's a hood should make worse with more or less the same engine, at worst it'd drop rpm to a reasonable number, not a fan of keeping the kitty pegged at 16-1700
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