Preventable accident?

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  1. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

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    So the company is saying this is a preventable accident. Backing into a dock and the asphalt collapsed causing the truck to go off into the dirt.

    dirt isn’t the customers property so they don’t care.
    Property owner responded to customer’s supervisor calling them. They’re not worried about it. Company is treating it as an accident not incident and possibly putting it on DAC.

    would you consider this preventable? I do not.
    Punishment is no safety bonus and being de-rated to 62mph.
     

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  3. Chinatown

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    Property owner and customer supervisor are in cahoots and probably do that at least once or twice a week.
    I have seen that before.
     
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    Capacity Road Train Member

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    Who went down in the grass if it was you , why?
     
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  5. ZVar

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    You did damage to someone's property by driving off the road and breaking up the edging. How is it not a preventable? Its as simple as staying on the pavement.

    At least that's the way it looks from the picture.
     
  6. Mototom

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    It’s not a road it’s a piss poor paving job meant to be a parking lot. Asphalt crunched and the truck went into the soil AFTER.

    If it was a drainage grate that collapsed would it be preventable? Keeping in mind that said grate is supposed to be something you can drive over, just like asphalt.

    or if a dump truck is backing up into a location and the concrete slab was poured over a septic tank (against common sense but contractors do it) so the slab collapses and sinks the truck. Is that preventable?
     
  7. Mototom

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    I’ve crushed asphalt moving construction equipment in that line of work property owner gets told it’s not my problem take it up with the “expert” pavers that didn’t make a bed for it and spread it way too thin. But if he pays for material and labor we can straighten it back out.
     
  8. ZVar

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    But you did none of those things. You did however drive on the very edge of the asphalt causing damage.
     
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  9. Mototom

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    And? It was still ON the asphalt. No curb or warning line to indicate someone should NOT drive there.
    Using your logic if I’m sitting at a dock and the truck falls through the asphalt it’s the drivers fault.
     
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  10. AModelCat

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    The asphalt that remained intact looks pretty ####ty. I'd have kept back a few feet. Same with the shoulder on a road. They've been known to collapse.
     
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  11. Frank Speak

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    Piss on them. Pretty much every where I deliver is a #### hole. There’s on place in particular I go to that that the numb nut front end loader is a moron.

    He leaves his appointments laying all over. I used to would get out and move them. NO MORE!

    So far I’ve snapped 2 of his shovel handles in half and parked on top of his hose twice.

    Piss on him. Now, if there’s anything in my way (and it won’t damage my truck), I run over it. Stupid SOB doesn’t have sense enough to move his crap, he can lose it.
     
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