Clock status question. Staging are to dock if 14 is expired?

JMO:

Reality sometimes clashes with the legal system, company policy, etc. This is a known by any Judge, Policymaker, and we would hope, DOT man.

PC offers a way to move the truck when a reality situation that does not comport with regulations occurs, without logging a violation.

Is it legal? Maybe not, but there is a space for comments, and PC can prevent a driver from logging a violation. It's kind of up to the individual, but if it were me, I would rather use PC than have a violation appear on my log.

As OTR drivers, we are 24 hour creatures faced with all manner of reality situations, many that do not fit within the regulations. Some might argue there is a need for yet more regulations, and that eventually all potential realities will eventually be accounted for. If that were the case, learning them all might be equivalent to passing the bar exam or getting a PhD in trucking. From my perspective, PC offers a way to drive the truck without logging a violation. So my inclination, on list of best way to deal, is first to stay below 5mph if that would work. If not, PC does not register a violation, and I prefer that to registering a violation.

Then there is ones company and what they can live with, which may vary from place to place.

Also, keep in mind there are legitimate uses of PC. A creative individual might be able to kill 2 birds with one stone by combining a legitimate use of PC with a move they need/want to make.

 

Not trying to be snarky, but if a driver is working for such a Micky Mouse outfit they need to go find a better place to work. These subjects come up almost one a week on these boards. People & carriers act like the penalty for a 395 bust is death! It's not and DOT is not hiding behind trees waiting to pounce.

This has happened to me more times than I care to admit. I just did what I had to do to make my pickup or delivery and get to the closest safe place to take my 10. I'm sorry, but this is not rocket science! Basic common sense should rule the day.

 

I was thinking as off end of last year we were able to stop the 14 hour clock for up to 3 hours on lines 1-2 for reasons like weather, wrecks or lousy shippers or receivers then start back up until the 14 is up?

 

It needs to take a page from oilfield HOS. Waiting on wellsite not only pauses the clock, but you can even reset. You guys need a "waiting at shipper/receiver".

 

The shorter period also pauses the clock.

 

First. If your clock is so close that you don't have at least 2 hours for a live load/unload. You should be getting repowered. As almost all will be a minimum of 2 hours. With at least 2 hours left. You can, and should, go into split birth the moment you get done checking in at the customer. Both the 2/3 and the 7/8 pause your 14.

Honestly not sure how, with 3 hours of on duty time over your 11, and not having multiple stops at customers. You run out of your 14.

I guess the only thing I can say. Is try to trip plan better in the future. Not being snarky. If you do plan better. You can make sure on your delivery day. That you have enough time to actually deliver.

 

Not the 14

 

Wrong ...

 

Yes it does. At least on Qualcomm. Used it all the time. Also says it in the regs.

 

In legal terms there is no provision to move the truck in this scenario. Even yard move isn't a legal status...

That said yard move if available and better trip planning if not. At the 13th hour the driver really should be working with dispatch to get the truck in the dock or to a place to rest.

 

Yes the shorter period pauses the 14.