12.7 Detroit

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  1. Highroller58

    Highroller58 Bobtail Member

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    Anyone know if the bulldog really increases the horsepower, I just replaced my dd15 with a 12.7 500 hp motor has 10,000 miles on it I want more horsepower
     
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  3. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    A lot of guys have been happy with Fernando at DCS. A good custom tune will perform better than the bully dog
     
  4. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Beat me to it.

    Diesel Control Services.
     
  5. kranky1

    kranky1 Road Train Member

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    I don’t know if they increase horsepower or not. I know the mechanic up the road has a pile of ISX’s and DD15’s behind the shop with the pistons smashed out of them from Bully Dogs. I’d look at a tune if anything, but you’re not going to get the torque out of that 12.7 that a 15L puts up. I think that’s what you’re missing more than horsepower.
     
  6. DUNE-T

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    I have Fernando's tune, really happy with it. Just gotta be prepared for 3 weeks downtime, while he programs the ecm
     
  7. blairandgretchen

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    That's where I'm at. I have a 12.7 S60 - but it pulls nothing like the N-14 @ 15L displacement. I understand there's a lot you can do with a 12.7 , turbo/intake/exhaust to make it perform, but I'd be happier swapping in the N-14 or a CAT at 15L+ displacement to get the power I want.

    DCS is probably the best answer, along with a ported and polished one piece exhaust manifold, buttoning up your CAC side and a BW turbo.

    @Ruthless probably has other ideas.
     
  8. DUNE-T

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    Is yours stock or tuned?
    My truck with Detroit has 550/1850 and 10 speed, my other Volvo got 525/1850 N14 with 13 speed and honestly if Detroit also had a 13, I would not be missing driving N14, I think it would take care of the feeling of Detroit's lower engine displacement
     
  9. Ruthless

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    If someone told me 3 weeks to tune I would decline.
    A #### good friend of mine does excellent electrical and mechanical work on detroits, and does overnited ecm tunes.
    I am not giving out his personal info to strangers on the internet for the people reading in the future-

    I have a couple 12.7‘s. They have some upgrades. I certainly have more power than I need to get the job done, but not so much that I have to worry about longevity.


    3 weeks downtime is too much for something like that imo
     
  10. Highroller58

    Highroller58 Bobtail Member

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    I had a dd15 that had a pdi power tune that gave me plenty of power, probably would work on the 12.7 just don't want to compromise my 100,000 mile warranty I only have 10,000 on the remanufactured 12.7
     
  11. Old Man

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    Fernando has a lot of experience testing for the epa and understands timing.
    Won’t take 3 weeks if you overnight the ecm and don’t use FedEx.
    Get a triple play like mine 500-600-700 hp
     
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