RGN & LCV Training

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  1. Just-A-DumbTruckDriver

    Just-A-DumbTruckDriver Bobtail Member

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    Hey all,

    I work as a contractor for a large company that recently acquired a stretch RGN trailer with a Jeep and Stinger. Despite our drivers lack of experience in this specialized field, the company would like for us to utilize this trailer. While I and others are willing to learn, I want to make sure we go about this the right way. My questions are...

    - Do I need some type of training/certificate to use a regular/stretch RGN trailer?
    - At what point does an RGN load require LCV training?

    I am familiar with hauling oversized loads, and I know the state I reside in requires permitting/escorts for combinations over 81ft in length. From what I've found LCV training is required for jeeps, stingers, and such combinations that exceed over 80,000 Lbs.... can't find anything about overall length with just a tractor and stretch RGN.

    Appreciate the help, thanks!
     
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  3. idriveaholden

    idriveaholden Super Heavy Hauler

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    You probably just need doubles and triples

    Here’s what happens when a stretch rgn goes off route . Not very fun or forgiving trailers
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  4. Just-A-DumbTruckDriver

    Just-A-DumbTruckDriver Bobtail Member

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    A fellow truck driver told me I would need a LCV for the jeep/stinger, and that there is an additional certification for using both at the same time... it would be great to confirm if that is true. Is there any certification required for just a stretch RGN?

    I'm sure the RGN will be especially unforgiving here on the Northeast. That's why when I do a permit load I make sure to load it into the GPS in accordance with the states routing... don't want to miss a single turn.
     
  5. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Looks like he forgot he was pulling a trailer. Drug the axles right over the concrete walls as if they didn't exist.
     
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  6. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    I can’t help on the certification part - but I do know - you need to look at the complete route on street view and satellite, preferably drive it - when you get at LCV with limited or no steerable capability - over 90-100’.

    States will give you a route that is an absolute no go - been there.

    Kudos for asking the questions.
     
  7. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Never got an LCV. T endorsement was enough for 200 feet. Maybe Big Ronnie can add more info.
     
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  8. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    LS requires it now for some reason. Out of my wheelhouse.
     
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    TripleSix God of Roads

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    I did have to take a steerman/tillerman class for trailers with rear steering, but that’s not a state or federal anything.
     
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  10. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    no LCV certification for me - I can self certify if I recall. I looked into it about 10 years ago.

    as far as utilizing a MULTIAXLE stretch RGN with no experience is a really swinging for the fences.

    you will definitely need the double and triples endorsement - I have been asked several times to provide proof.

    words of caution here - As the trailers and loads get bigger - the cost to correct things when things go wrong rises exponentially. This includes getting stuck or getting of route or overweight issues or incorrect measurements.

    and lastly — do you or they have an idea what is a responsible rate to assign that type of equipment - this segment of the industry is already suffering from rare cutting and rate ignorance.

    sorry for not being a ray of sunshine.
     
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