Oversize without permits, arguments against.

The fact you even need to ask and arent begging for a refrence for a new co.pany instead tells me that mayhaps you should consider codeing instead?

Id appoligize but come on man, your an adult. Do the reasoning. You know the cost of failure is you lose everything. Is it worth doing and potentially doing time or paying fines well into the 7 figure range over finding another job. Even a potentially worse paying one?

 

I was once told you can skydive without a parachute...once. point being you can do anything until the un-lubed dildo of consequences shows up. I'm dealing with my company wanting to outright go outlaw on OW loads. Told them "No way, Jose". The found a patsy, the wait & see game is on.

 

Just to add/follow up on the post above -- to the Original Poster in this thread:

Remember ----> we live in a "reap what you sow" world -- & nowhere is this more true...than in the realm of trucking.

Thus -- at the end of the day -- do what(ever) you need to do -- to protect/preserve your CDL.

-- L

 

I like that one.

I was randomly thinking today that you can stare any place you want, for as long as you want - so long as it's not the sun. Unless you enjoy blindness.

 

Basic permits usually cost less than 50 bucks. Tell your boss to shove it up his ### and start looking for a better gig...do things the right way or dont do them at all. Theres already enough of that crap in this business and gives all the honest guys a bad name.

 

I agree. Can’t be that stupid. He knows that permits are required but asking these questions. What is he wanting to hear…OSOW horror stories? Dude, don’t lie. It’s not necessary

“Oh, but it’s a sweet contract!” Riiiiiiiight.

 

Rule Number 1: It's always the drivers fault.

Plenty of CDL holding chumps have been told to run by their company. Some of them have had accidents and ended up in prison. If anything isn't 100% above board you're getting fed to the meat grinder by the lawyers. Even if you do everything 100% right you can still end up in prison or ruled against in a civil lawsuit and be bankrupted for life.

Honestly after seeing two drivers at my last company have their wages stolen for years on end and then be told to run fuel in a truck-n-pup rig in freezing fog/ice and end up in a fatality wreck with both drivers going to prison and losing everything for their family. I'm bitter to still be stuck in this industry.

Tell your boss to go #### himself. Permits are cheap outside of super loads. Scales stay open around the clock. I've ran without overweight up to 5k lb over axle and 20k+ over gross. I got popped once as a company driver for 16klb over gross. The fine was around 4k dollars. Company tried to refuse to pay it even though the boss texted me to run it and keep loading. Luckily I was a union employee and the union came in and said to pay the fine or be sued.


Seriously, tell the management to #### off. Or else you'll be spending weeks and weeks of wages paying for their ####up. The DOT ain't writing that fine to the company, it's issued to you.

 

It ain't worth it... I did such things in the early 2000's when I was still very much a rookie. I worked for an ag equipment dealer, and while there were some times you could do oversize without permits, we pushed our luck many times.

We figured if we could outlaw it a handful of times and not get busted, the money saved would pay the fines when we did get busted.

Didn't pan out that way. My first episode cost $6500 in fines and a day of absolutely insane stress. There were a few episodes like that. After the company paid about $20k in fines in one year, the boss and I realized it would be much smarter to do it legal.

In today's world I'd NEVER try such things, no matter how sweet the contract is. Way too much liability if there's an accident.

 

What’s a permit….

 

The industry has become an anything goes free for all, go for it, it's cooler being an outlaw that way than not speaking Englsih