The Old Man's career dries up, Snackbar transfers to Crete from Shaffer

Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by supersnackbar, Apr 2, 2026.

  1. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Not really. The name of the game is always "Conserve Your Clocks", particularly the 14. "Too much time on the load" more refers to 'wasting time' that could be used for running down the road.

    Say picking up in GB, delivers into Gas City, IN, d/h on both ends, no parking at either customer (I've adjusted all times to central for simplicity). Load is ready at 18:00 Day 1 and must be picked up by 0700 on Day 2. The load cannot deliver until after 1800 on Day 2 and must deliver by 0600 Day 3.

    If I'm available at 1600 Day 1 with 4 hours on my 14, I'd be asking for a different load or to relay it. There's no 'good way' to run the load. The best option is to roll into the shipper and hope it's ready early. If it's not then you're going to have a scramble for parking. It being GB, not a big issue but the nearest parking is about 20-30 minutes in any direction. Once parked you've got less than 400 miles to delivery, call it 7 hours total trip time, which means you don't want to start pre-tripping until 1100. That puts you at the consignee after 1800 with at least 6 hours on your 14 when you're done. You've now sat for an 'extra' 6-7 hours. As a bonus - all the smaller shippers are closed for the day (pretty much everything around Gas City), which means you either lay up or dead head to Ft Wayne or Indy. By the time you do that and get under a load your parking options become limited, so the smarter option is to park and pick up in the morning (if the load allows). No matter how you slice it the load has about 8 hours of unproductive time (that's pronounced as 'uncompensated time').

    Now say you can't make pick up on Day 1. In this scenario you've got to start your clock by 0545 and will be at the consignee by 14:30. Once you deliver you can only head to parking. Even using a split log doesn't help that much because there's still nothing you can move on until the next morning.

    These types of scenarios are becoming more common. Stricter appointment times means building more time into the load. The truck to parking ratio has gone completely pear shaped even in 'truck friendly' places like Wisconsin, which means needing to shut down early - sometimes excessively so, which means even more wasted time. 400 miles a day isn't bad if you can keep running recaps - 2,800 miles a week or about 110,000 miles a year which adds up to about $80,000 a year, or about $28-30 an hour. Not bad, not great either. For that kind of money I'd rather get a local p/d job, but to each their own. The sticky wicket is when you string a couple of these unproductive loads together - loads that either have too much time between appointments or where truck stop locations dictate start/end times. You average daily miles quickly drops to 350. Then Ops starts kvetching about 'no one wants to work anymore', without recognizing that their freight base and dispatching paradigm is what's depressing average daily models.
     
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  3. 201773

    201773 Medium Load Member

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    The idea always us always about the next load. SSB, like many of us, plan each load with backwards thinking with the start of next load being the 'heart' of the thoughts.

    Sure where to shut down is a factor in trip planning, but when the next load can begin is always the constant primary focus.
     
  4. Trucker61016

    Trucker61016 Road Train Member

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    If you pay enough I'm sure they don't mind
     
  5. supersnackbar

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    After my mini aggravation event with 2nd shift Ops on Friday, I am back in a better mood again. They had me run that load up to the Petro in Scranton and meet a driver who was gonna take it the rest of the way to NH. He had them ask me when I would be there, I told them before 0800. I got there at 0700, parked right next to him and waited for signs of life. His curtains were pulled and his opti-idle was running so I wasn't exactly ninja quiet unhooking, hoping he would know it was me, or at least be curious as to what was happening out side his truck. Since I wasn't planning on doing much, I wasn't gonna rattle his cage. Around 9 he finally opened his door. He said I should have knocked...sorry, I am not your wake up service, you asked what time I would be there, you're a grown up, wake yourself up and be ready. We swapped trailers and I went and found a different parking spot. I had my PTA set for this morning at 6(Sunday), but Ops sent me a load 20 miles away that was ready and could be picked up Saturday or Sunday, but didn't deliver until Monday in Findlay OH. I figured, if I was gonna slack off, I may as well do it on the way to (or close to) the delivery. When I was leaving to pick up this load, he was still parked where we stopped. Oh well, it was supposed to deliver yesterday by midnight, any late deliveries are now on him, I did my part. This load is another Lowe's DC to DC move, with specific instructions for the Findlay DC to only deliver on the specific date shown, which is Monday. I made it to the Love's just west of the Ohio Turnpike exit, and seriously thought about doing a 34. But every time I do that, and start my day early to deliver starting my 14, they send me something that picks up near the end of my 14. So, I decided to run the remaing 150 miles of the load this morning, and park within a few miles of the delivery and wait until morning to deliver. Enroute, I get 2 preplans, but had to refuse both. Apparently, the planners don't 1) look at your PTA (which was set for 0600 tomorrow) 2) look at any specific instructions for your current load or 3) look at your hours. Preplan #1 was a live load today at 1500 that delivered tomorrow at Walmart in Midway, TN, and Preplan #2 picked up tomorrow after #1 delivered at Walmart. Had to tell them no because this load can't deliver until tomorrow, and I was hoping to recoup some hours on my 70 by having a short day today.
     
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  6. supersnackbar

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    Noticed something odd on the Peoplenet this morning. I tend to go my own way and just use my personal GPS as a timer, and to make sure my route isn't too far over the paid miles. But I do reference both the CoPilot on the tablet, and the map on the Workflow screen to see what kind of a weird route their technology is taking compared to mine. (I usually set my personal GPS up with waypoints that mirror my personal choice of routing). This load, the company technology contradicted itself. The CoPilot wanted me to take back roads from the Love's on I-76 (west of where you exit to take the turnpike) up to the turnpike, then hop off on US 6 across to I-75 down to Findlay. The Workflow map showed a different route, very similar to my personal GPS's original route 76 to 71 to US 30 (this was before I put in my waypoints). I chose some of the old route from years ago that Crete suggested we use when they forbid us from using the Ohio turnpike....which starts out on US224 where I-76 ends at I-71. Then I just followed 224 all the way to Findlay. It's the 1st time I have seen the company equipment give me 2 differing routes. (It may have done it before, I don't always look, I was just curious this time). Either way, my route was 18 miles shorter than the paid miles and more scenic, you just had to watch out for the Amish buggies on part of it. And it's another load that I could totally ignore the fuel solution by not having to stop for fuel. I am still at 3/8 of a tank, that I filled up at the Mechanicsburg terminal before taking that NH load to meet the other driver at the Scranton Petro.
     
  7. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    Looks like it's gonna be another one of those weeks. Last week I moved 7 loads in 7 days (2 of which delivered the same day). This week so far. I delivered to Lowe's this morning, then sent to Napoleon to repower a load for an O/O who's truck is having issues. That load delivers to Davenport today as well, then I pick up at the same customer going to Pendleton, IN for any time tomorrow. As they say, miles is miles, it just burns up a logbook doing daily drop/hook (or multiple drop/hooks), but at least I'm not sitting and waiting for them to find a load burning up my 14 for nothing.
     
  8. xlsdraw

    xlsdraw Road Train Member

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    That type of regional running used to really burn me out and burn me up.

    I even got suckered into a refer company that ran like that.
     
    Lonesome Thanks this.
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