Advanced logging - Split sleeper berth explained

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Rawlco, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    actually you can. thats why you have the split. Just remember when doing them, that your 2 hr break does NOT stop the 14 hr clock....only the 8 hr sleeper break (and the 8 must be taken in the sleeper) stops it. So when you figure where your 14 ends after taking your 2....you gotta start the 14 from your previous start.

    I know how to do it, but i also run my logbook off my laptop (DDL.com) and it makes it much easier.
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I am wrong, please disregard my post up there. I got a violation warning today for that very same thing the other day at a shipper, my 14 ran out and they would not let me stay there for the 10. So I hid out in the back for 2 hours and split it. They got me for over 14 violation now I have to sign a paper and take another dang log class lol. One of these days I will figure it out then they will change HOS.
     
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  4. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    OMG, how hard is it? The rules and diesel bear say 8 hours stop the 14 hour clock.

    8 hours to go split sleeper
    10 hours to return to 11 driving.

    scottied67 you can't start with the 2, you have to start with 8 to split.

    Many just need to stay away from split sleeper because they don't understand it. It's really not that hard. The way the DOT words it is.
     
  5. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Mr. Condo, it's apparently not easy to understand. You do not have to start the split with the 8 and no matter how many times you split 8-2-8-2...neither your 11 nor your 14 reset until you take a 10.

    If that's what you are trying to say, please forgive my misunderstanding. You must know I respect your time and experience. Please take a peek at how DieselBear lined it out.
     
  6. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Check out example 17 (Possibly others as well).

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/hos-logbook-examples.htm

    Best regards
     
  7. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Sure you can.

    The 14-hour and 11-hour clocks start from the last time you did a 10-hour break. Somewhere along the line before the 11 and 14 run out you take a 2-hour break. Later on (again before you run out of time) you take 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth. Your 11 and 14 are now counted from the end of the 2-hour break, and the 8-hour break doesn't count against your 14. However, your total line 3 time on either side of that 8-hour break (counting from the end of the 2-hour break forward) cannot exceed 11 hours. Totally clear as mud, yes?

    Been doing it for some time now... DOT likes the way I log - and so does Ms Elogs. Its like logbook magic once you figure it out!!
     
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  8. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    The 8 hour sleeper period will not count towards you 14 hour window. But, the time will resume counting once you take your 8 and come bacjk out driving. I bet I have at least 5 drivers a week get this confused.
     
  9. trukngrl

    trukngrl Lollipop, lollipop...

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    I will raise my hand and be one of them! :biggrin_25521:

    I run a team truck so we do not really do the split sleeper. We each run a 12 hour shift that way we get our 10hrs in. But, I can see where the split sleeper can get very confusing especially when you are just starting out
     
  10. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    You work 14 hours but only drive 8 of them. Legally you can take an 8 hour break and then drive 3 more, then a 2 hour break and then drive 8. Right??

    Otherwise the split sleeper serves no purpose for a solo driver if you have to take a full 10 hours to start it.
     
  11. walstib

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    Yes...As long as both sides of the breaks equal 11...
     
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