5700 EX introduced...

Discussion in 'Western Star Forum' started by peter_x, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. mattbnr

    mattbnr Road Train Member

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    Nice. That integrated Detroit drivetrain looks just sweet. Motor,trans, rearend. Bam triple threat.

    Dd16, dt12, 46,000 lb rear.
     
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  3. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    dt12 means more cost on parts than manuel.
     
  4. ipogsd

    ipogsd Heavy Load Member

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    How much more? (Rhetorical)

    How much fuel costs does it save over the life of the truck?
     
  5. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    In my opinion is cost more on auto. Saving or not, it's lazy. I would mod the engine and the tire. I grew riding with my dad driving manual transmissions. 13 sp and 18 sp, there you see more fuel saving than on 10 speeds.
     
  6. cnsper

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    They are too light weight made for me. I think of them as a Freightliner with a new hood. They do look good though.
     
  7. mattbnr

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    The dt12 is a 12 speed.
    And it's not lazy. It's actually harder to CORRECTLY drive an auto than a manual.
    I don't think you could consistently match the fuel mileage day in and out using a 13 or 18 vs the auto.
    The final gear ratios in a 10,13,18 are all the same. The only differences are the direct drive ratios which are 9th in a 10 speed and 11th on a double over drive 13. So no your argument is invalid.
     
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  8. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    Drivers lose skills to shift manual.
     
  9. lcfd15

    lcfd15 Medium Load Member

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    So when you buy a truck, is your main goal to buy a truck so you can maintain your shifting skills or to make as much money as efficiently, safely and as quickly as possible? Just saying, from a business perspective, I don't see how losing skills out weighs basic business concepts. Is that not why they have refresher programs or trainers?
     
  10. peter_x

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