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Yes I did...now crunch the numbers and show me how a new driver could make that much money...have I missed something, is there a new dedicated run from Boulder to Portland that involves kilos of herb?

To make 54k in your first year with the current pay scale (avg of .34cpm) you would need to run over 150,000 miles in your first year, 12,500 a month consistently, 3125 a week for an entire year(12mths@4wks=48wks)...know anyone new pulling that weight of miles? .34cpm for 150,000 is only 51K still need to find those other 3 dimes. Don't forget to factor in the time required to do pm's, sustainment training, waiting on support shaft, factoring in restarts (forget recaps and that level of miles per week).

I don't mind being lied to but I prefer those lies to be told by a much younger and strikingly beautiful woman telling me how wonderful and sexy I am...

Little Eddy

 

I hate getting reloaded... One hour left and they better hurry. Pretty sure t.s are all full up by now

 

True, I forgot to factor the bonus. What holiday pay? And what pay is there for stops?
I only used 4 weeks per month to allow for restarts and some TAH...28 days of not driving in a year isn't what I would call the good life.
I was examining the claim for a new driver not one with experience and without that experience an up to cpm will avg .34 that first year in question.
As for detention pay, unload pay and etc pay all of those will factor in at a lower overall gross verses a cpm rate.

It is disingenuous to make a statement that is a mathematical "possibility" and doing so discounts the business as a whole. If new drivers become disillusioned by the reality as opposed to the promises of the road SNI only has to look in the mirror to find where this disillusionment is first created.

I agree that the ball is constantly moving and no one knows what the base rate is...on another thread I read a new driver talking about getting 36cpm just starting out.
I might have to "retire" for a month or two and then sign back on for a 5,000 bonus and get a higher cpm base rate.

 

I think our recruiters learned how to do math during the late 80's when "Fuzzy Math" was all the rage but here's how the math works out.

The first $5,000 is the sign on bonus which leaves you needing $49,000 in mileage plus accessory pay and bonus. 34 CPM is the base average, add to that the max bonus of 3 cpm and you get an average rate of 37 CPM. To make $49,000 at 37 CPM you have to drive 132,500 paid miles. If you work 300 days over the course of the year that works out to a little under 450 miles a day. In theory very attainable. In my first year I drove about 145,000 paid miles - but I also worked an AWFUL lot and learned how to run SMART very quickly.

I have not factored in any shorthual, detention, layover pay which tends (for me at least) to work out to 2 CPM over the course of the year. Doing so would take the paid miles a day down to around 400-425.

I agree that it would be better for recruiters to use actual first year earnings (date of hire to date of hire), look ad mean, median, and mode and base the adverts on those numbers. Recruiters will say a lot to get someone in the door and let them believe even more. I know a lot of guys who show up with a partial understanding of reality. Some of it is the fault of the recruiter but more lies squarely at the new hire. Recruiter says "up to" and new driver hears "I'm going to make $x, get a brand new truck that comes equipped with a helper monkey who will cook, clean, give me back rubs and spot me into holes"

 

Just send me a check for $5,000 made out to cash and I'll ship one out to you.

 

The "up to" figure that Schneider always quotes is for experienced drivers at the top pay rate with minimal time off. It has nothing to do with new driver pay rates, even though it may be slightly misleading. Notice how it doesn't say "54K bare minimum"? No, it says 54k "Maximum". So expect to be underneath that number until you get some tenure.

 

Don't want to hijack this location thread so I only inquire as to the basis for your numbers.
I used 34cpm with the bonus factored in.
I started at .30cpm and have metrics in excess of 110% but have never heard of a 3cpm bonus. after 7 months I am @ 33cpm, with bonus 35cpm. My hiring contract has me at 34cpm by the end of my first year...adding my bonus takes me to 36cpm. I am curious where your 37cpm comes in especially factored over the course of the year and not realized after the first year is completed; I can see a new driver potentially having that rate by the end of the year (especially with some of the new rates being offered) but not at anytime during the course of the first year.

If I am incorrect then please tell me who I call to get my rate adjusted so that I get a base pay equal to the new hire.

Lastly, absolutely the last post on this subject...
I agree with both you and 88Alpha that what is claimed and what is heard are often area codes apart, my significant displeasure is that fact that once again we tolerate and accept a corporate (and not just SNI) adventure in purposeful misinformation all in service to corporate interest and concern over the next quarters report. But hey, what do I know...I just run the loads.

Little Eddy