Do you put load locks on loads of rolled paper stacked vertically?

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  1. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    If it isn't blocked and/or braced somehow, it's unsecured.
     
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  3. Mountain Hummingbird

    Mountain Hummingbird Medium Load Member

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    But first they have to have a reason to open up your doors. Just dont give them a reason. Had some donkey DOT officer up in Canada once try to get me to open a USDA sealed meat load, told him if he wants it open he has to cut the seal. Told him straight up the only people who can legally open those door are customs, a USDA, or Canada Food inspector or the reciever, anyone else it is a felony.
     
  4. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Gonna have to see some kind of actual law/regulation on that--cargo securement and checking load is all legally part of a level 1 dot inspection..not to mention dope cops on the prowl,,,border patrol etc..and..All I've Ever pulled is an icebox--and have had countless inspections over the years and have had trailers w/all kinds of food items--opened and checked...when sealed(and yes I almost never seal produce loads--and even if some shipper does--i still break it00but thats another topic)
    On the occasion I have had some type of LEO break the seal to check--None of them have EVER had a problem w/resealing my wagon...and documenting on my BOL the inspection..including printing their names/badge numbers etc...and in the case of DOT guys breaking them(among others)have always provided a STATE seal of some sort to replace original--if not I use a co seal and they document #s--
    and btw--this also included the possibly dumbest deputy in the state of Indiana--if not the world--who pulled me over--callin a haz-mat team in the process--due to the "Gren Fluid"(his words)oozing outta my wagon--told him I had fresh spinach Iced down--and it was the ice melting...tried to warn him and show him HOW to properly open the doorss--so he wouldnt get soaked--told me to stay back--HE KNOWS what he's doin...hard not to bust out laughin as his clean dry uniform got washed...LMAO
     
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  5. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    The best results to secure paper rolls is to have the floor of the trailer really clean. Most places are required to place the rubber mats under the rolls for grip and protection. If the floor is dusty/dirty.....those mats are totally useless. The rolls will slide with less than hard braking. Using load locks for paper rolls is like holding back a landslide with a toothpick.
     
  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    That is correct. Checking load securement is part of the job here in the US.

    The weight cop that lives down the street from me says he laughs every time a trucker tells him he cannot break the seal. He says if you were not getting one a level 1 before you state that, you definitely will after.

    The seal is only to prevent and prove to the shipper and receiver that the driver has not tampered with the load;It means nothing t the DOT or any other law enforcement official.
     
  7. 201

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    Hi 'olhand, HAH! I know LEO's have a tough job, but for some reason, as in the "spinach" situation, sometimes they carry their attitude too far. I don't know how you kept yourself composed, because if you laugh, it's off to the pokey. You are clearly a professional!:thumbup: Someone in our company years ago, lost a set of rear wheels off a RR container, and it was a Sysco load ( hundreds of different items) and it was placarded, and some liquid was leaking out the back. RED ALERT, half the State of ILL. came out with the Haz-Mat crew, THE WORKS. They unloaded the container at the side of the road. You know what the Haz-Mat was? Several cases of Sterno camp fuel.( untouched):biggrin_25512: Oh, the liquid? Turned out to be bleach.
     
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  8. jbee

    jbee Medium Load Member

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    Most shippers I know of (Rock Tenn, GA Pa, International etc) are sticklers for clean floors for that very reason, and inspected for the same, in addition for holes, nails etc.

    One other thing, if you are going to use Load Locks, the only way they'll be of any worth is if you augment them with straps. If you situate them properly in conjunction to one another, and crank the straps down accordingly, without completely distorting the walls on the trailer, the locks should do their job.

    Disclaimer - anything at highway speed, on the Cross Bronx will shift. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Mountain Hummingbird

    Mountain Hummingbird Medium Load Member

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    The tag which was hooked into the seal stated 10,000 dollar fine for removal by anyone other than the previously mentioned individuals. Dont know why just was, have been told that fresh meat being shipped to Canada can not be opened by anyone other than customs, a food inspector or the receiver dont know why that is just is. I just run with what they tell me no point asking why you get some stupid response from them anyway that only makes sense to them.
    I have also moved shipments of army stuff seal cannot be removed for any reason until it reaches where it is going.
     
  10. supersnackbar

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    If the officer is an anal retentive jerk, and he can't find anything else to write you up for.
     
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  11. jbee

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