sliding the tandems?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by jmcdaniel05, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. jmcdaniel05

    jmcdaniel05 Bobtail Member

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    What do you do when the weight on the trailer tandems is very heavy and you have to slide the tandems back so far that it is more than the kingpin settings for the states you're going through?
     
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  3. flyingmusician

    flyingmusician Road Train Member

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    Take it back and have them fix it.

    I've only rarely ever run with it and had to do some 'creative' routing. one place outside Chicago comes to mind that's almost always tail heavy and a pita to deal with on a good day.......but I have a viable low-risk 'option' to make the delivery on that one.

    99.9% of the time it goes back and I make them fix it.
     
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  4. lagbrosdetmi

    lagbrosdetmi Box Monkey

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    Back to shipper and rework load.

    Or drive thru different states.
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I was being live loaded once in Texas. I knew from experience this was going to be a heavy load. I've learned that if my gross will be in the high 70 thousand pounds to never allow a pallet in that last six feet on the trailer. 99% of the time with a heavy load anything in that area will cause you to be over 34,000 on those tandems. I refused the load on the spot. Never allow a shipper to do this. Stand your ground. In this case they removed the offending pallet and when I cat scaled I was bridge law legal, just barely.
     
  6. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    All depends on the situation. We talking a few inches too far or are the tandems almost all the way to the back? Also depends on how far you're going and where you are, and what time of day it is, and do you have any "maverick" in your blood. Get'r done.
     
  7. w.h.o

    w.h.o Road Train Member

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    Depends how close u r to the border and how far the customer is. If it's California, well then u gna have to take it back
     
  8. Balakov100

    Balakov100 Road Train Member

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    Go back to have them fix it is the right answer.

    Other options are run with it take your chances.
    Or go around the Scale(s) all together.

    Can't recommend the last 2.
     
  9. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    1. Check your route..
    2. PRE-Set the axles at the shortest required axle setting on that route.
    3. Get loaded
    4. Check the weight. Preferably at a certified scale
    5. If you tandems are too heavy.. there is NOTHING you can do (other than climb inside and start hand moving freight forward)
     
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  10. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Fozzy, if you don't mind, would you explain to Opie why you do this procedure?
     
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  11. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    Not sure what you mean. But its pretty simple. If you set the axles to the minimum required (shortest) king pin to axle settings found on your route (across several states etc) and then check the loaded truck's axle weights. If it is overweight on the rear axles... the driver cannot make the load legal to be pulled through the states with that kingpin to axle limit. To make the axle weight legal, the tandems would have to me slid to the rear, thus making the kingin to axle settings too long for the states requiring a shorter length. The load must be reworked (moving weight forward in the trailer) to shift weight off of the tandems..

    In the cases of short kingpin to axle requirements, its almost better to overload the drive axles and slide the tandems forward to move the weight off of the drive axles.. this instantly creates a shorter wheelbase. Kills two birds with one stone..
     
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