Anyone Using Blue Bloodhound???

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by tracyq144, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. cobudbelly

    cobudbelly Bobtail Member

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    Kind of makes ya wonder if that owner of North South Express is somehow involved in this, lol. Sounds pretty fishy.
     
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  3. TrueGritTrucker

    TrueGritTrucker Bobtail Member

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    I see quite a few issues with this...

    - If the driver is using the carrier's equipment than this person is most probably not an independent contractor, generally, in my opinion, but each situation is different. This to me represents a whole bunch of issues for the driver's and carrier's as its obvious this company is making a blanket statement which I argue could be disastrous.
    - The risks are still on the carrier and drivers as from what I can tell BBH is NOT assuming any responsibilities, see their terms i.e. no warranty and limited liability.
    - So, at this point, its just a place to store digital documents and show jobs i.e. job board. However, I would assume once the carrier has signed up, they are precluded from hiring any of the driver's outside the system. (I maybe speculating incorrectly here but why would a carrier need them if they can just call someone up or e-mail them?)
    - The $65 per run is coming out of someone's pocket.

    What "service" is being provided? I still don't see a business model as they have not eliminated anything, they have actually added an extra layer of confusion for no reason. The whole "independent contractor" is, in my opinion a very dangerous blanket statement.

    Its a simple job board in theory (with document retention), yet they assume no risk and want reward as if they were a temporary employment agency. I respectfully disagree with you that they are temp agency, that is what they are trying to avoid.... .they want the money but no risk... they don't want to pay the driver's as an employee or provide benefits. There is a place for business like this.... Fantasy Land. Uber at least eliminated inefficiencies.... this actually adds complexity with no real benefit that I can see.

    When a 3rd party claims they have the ability to make a legal determination as to someone's employment status and does so with a no warranty and limited liability clause.... your spidey sense should be telling you something isn't right. Some of their statements on their website, in my opinion, are downright dangerous.... I would seriously advise to get a legal opinion or if you feel lucky, roll the dice.

    It appears on their FB page they are claiming now they have some runs, however, under what terms were those runs posted? And can you trust them? i.e. no warranty

    I fail to see how this "service" really helps the carrier anymore than a job board, while all the risks remain or grow. My guess (opinion) that a few years from now the IRS figures out people are being improperly labeled "independent contractors", they serve this group with a subpoena for a list of customers and start going through the list of carriers/drivers one by one for audit. Of course, that is just the beginning of the nightmare SS, Obama Care penalties, workman's comp, penalties, interest, etc.

     
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  4. TrueGritTrucker

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    I will note that sometime after yesterday (I do not see a review section any longer maybe I am blind), they appear to have eliminated the "review" portion off their facebook page as they were starting to get quite a few negative (1 or 2 star) reviews, and people were complaining about some of the things in this thread and the lack of loads. Not sure if they will add this back but that to me explains another part of their problem.... lack of transparency. If you can't answer basic questions either on your facebook or website, than most probably your "service" doesn't make as much sense as you thought.

    Either way, I don't see a valid business model here, but each his own.
     
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  5. Chewbongka

    Chewbongka Light Load Member

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    Yeah neither do I but I was curious enough to sign up and see what they are talking about.
    I could see the reason for negative reviews from anyone that was counting on getting steady work out of this.

    No they allow the carrier to hire you and get on their payroll that is why I thought it appeared to be a vetting agency.

    There is a very limited description of the load terms on the website when viewing the loads which plays into your point that they have a severe lack of transparency.
     
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  6. TrueGritTrucker

    TrueGritTrucker Bobtail Member

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    Do the carrier's have to pay a fee to hire the driver outside the system? (just curious)

    If no, than for a true independent driver (owner operator) this simply is another job board, which is fine I guess. Nothing really new about it, I mean this company really isn't providing much of anything, if carriers think it worth $65 a load to post it on a job board, cool in my book. Don't get me wrong, I still don't get it but at that point its just a fancy way of saying job board. However, as you said as a vetting service, it could be fine but there probably wouldn't be any real money to be made, if I were to guess. But I don't think that is really what they are trying to sell.... they are trying to sell to the carriers the ability to give the carriers "employees" in disguise of being "independent contractors".

    The problem I see, and I think this goes back to what I read in the reviews the other day, before they shut it down. I believe they are giving loads out to drivers that are not truck owners, it looked like maybe the drivers were using the carrier's truck, but I am not for sure on this. This in my opinion is not good and eventually someone (carrier/driver) is going to pay the price under this type of situation. So, without the temporary employee using the carrier's truck, they are reduced to the true independent driver owner, which makes this an empty job board.

    The removing of the reviews is the modern equivalent of taking your football home when the other kids on the block win the game, just my take.
     
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  7. MOGLAR

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    Basically they act like a temporary labor company. Generally speaking they hire drives out like coolies. Very cheap and they try to exploit drivers by making them think they are contractors.
     
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  8. TrueGritTrucker

    TrueGritTrucker Bobtail Member

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    Don't be surprised if they shutdown. :) (God speaks to me at times) Feel sorry for all the truckers that put their information in that system, who knows where that information ends up. A loser business plan. imo
     
  9. The Crossword Trucker

    The Crossword Trucker Road Train Member

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    I honestly doubt they ever pulled a single load.
     
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  10. TrueGritTrucker

    TrueGritTrucker Bobtail Member

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    Hmmm. You're not hot, but probably very warm.
     
  11. Dale thompson

    Dale thompson Road Train Member

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    I have signed up for this and so far there has not been anything worthwhile in my area lots of runs and a few temp to hire which I do not look twice at but that is because I'm not looking for a full time gig and just like a load board about 30% is cheap - it was free to sign up so time will tell if they"BBH" can get enough companys signed on to keep things interesting because I have seen runs that look tasty just not in my zone
     
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