Backing practice

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by MosquitoBandito, Oct 5, 2016.

  1. MosquitoBandito

    MosquitoBandito Bobtail Member

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    Hello everyone--

    I am totally new to driving, and I am in the process of selecting a CDL school for my training. I have time on my side as I don't plan to start driving for a carrier for about a year. So, I have been visiting the various CDL training schools in Chicago to see what their facilities are like, checking on prices, and to chat with their trainers. One thing that surprised the heck out of me is that no school I have seen yet offers practice on backing other than parallel parking. Come to find out, the State of Illinois only requires parallel parking for their road test! 90 degree backing, and other types of angle backing seems to be an essential skill to me that is missing from the training. Am I over-reacting?

    Is there another way for me to get practice in backing before going to a carrier? I know that I will get that training with them, but I would hate to go to my future employer totally inexperienced on something so important.

    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much.
     
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  3. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    1st, there are national requirements for what is known as the skills test. One of the requirements is 45° backing. You back up, without crossing the lines and stop between lines.

    Because of cdl scandal in illinois, I was required to pass the cdl driving test when I transferred my cdl here. I tried the skills with my own truck and a borrowed 53' container. I failed twice that part, so a friend gave me the name of a facility that does hosts the testing. Piece of cake in 48' with single axle daycab.

    expertdriving.com
     
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    They are probably going to set up cones.
     
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  5. MosquitoBandito

    MosquitoBandito Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Your answer prompted me to look up what the FMCSA requirements are for skills testing, and their site spells them out very clearly:

    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/383.113

    I hadn't actually heard of the Illinois CDL scandal before. I moved here in 2005, and I guess it was before I moved here. It never ceases to amaze me how low the State of Illinois can sink. I really can't wait to get the hell out of Illinois.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...rs-bribery-scheme-commercial-driver-s-license
     
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  6. Dominick253

    Dominick253 Heavy Load Member

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    American truck simulator. Get a wheel if you like. Most realistic backing physics of any trucking game. Even having a spread axle loaded heavy makes a difference in the game. Like it would in real life. I got really good at blind siding with that game.
     
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  7. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Rent a U-Haul trailer for a day and practice backing with your car. The shorter wheelbase causes the trailer to react much faster than a big rig. Get some cones, find somewhere to set up, and spend a few hours getting the hang of it.

    Practice backing in a wide radius circle to figure out the concept of following the trailer in a fixed angle, without increasing or decreasing the angle very much.
     
  8. w.h.o

    w.h.o Road Train Member

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    There's ways in Illinois to get a cdl without even physical touching a truck. Hell the way I got mine in Illinois was kinda shady but I actually took the time to borrow books and browse this site to help me understand trucking and it's culture
     
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  9. MosquitoBandito

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    So, I gave Expert CDL school a call. Spoke for a while with the owner-- really nice lady. I got some prices from her ($2600 for the 160 hour basic course). She stated that students can work on backing as much as they would like. They are located in a trucking terminal, so dock practice is possible. If I run out of behind the wheel training hours, I can purchase additional hours for $70. Sounds like I am going to go through these guys. Thanks again for the info!

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    EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention: They have a representative from the Secretary of State come to the school to do the testing, which is awesome. Seems like it would be easier to do the test in a place I am familiar with.
     
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  10. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    How many hours behind the wheel will they give you? When I was a trainer the typical trainee with a fresh CDL got in my truck with 10 hours, not including practice on skills.
     
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    When I did mine the ones who kept practicing got a cdl the rest didn't they just watched.
     
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