8/2 split question

Only the government could come up with something this stupid and confusing. Team shouldn't have to even follow the hours of service rules because when one one is driving the other one is resting.

 

My company let's you do off duty for the 2 but you gave to have 8 in the sleeper birty

 

The company has nothing to do with it; those are the FMCSA regulations.

 

That's because that's the law. That part of the law is very simple to understand, not sure why so many on here don't understand it.

 

Sorry, what you said it correct. I had them switched around.

 

I think what you are trying to do is max out your dollars? Onduty pays minimum wage and driving pays min wage +$1? Smart strategy.

I did this once with my mentor-- I drove 10.5/D 13.5/OD hours to this customer, we were about 5 hours early, mentor was on a 'rolling' 34 hour break. So we got unloaded, I mentioned if we sit for 35 more minutes I would have 8 in the sleeper and we could go on down to the truck stop around the corner about 15 mintues away rather than sit there for almost 2 more hours.

He tells me to log a 30 minute pretrip and roll, I tell him I can only afford a 15 minute pretrip and 15 minutes driving, he grabs my logs (paper at that time) and declares I'm good for 2.5 hours of driving. We argue a little bit but I say time is ticking we need to roll before I go into violation.

he then calls one of his other mentor buddies and hand me the phone, I explain my hours to this guy and he agrees with me lol. Anyway, this split break provision confuses so many people.

I read on here a few years back about an owner op who was getting his authority, was held up because he had several logs showing 8 hours , the FMCSA was holding up his authority app, this driver had to get a DOT official to explain to the FMCSA that according to their own regs, this driver was in compliance, how embarrassing is that that our own government who write the regs don't know their own friggen rules.

My recommendation is to visit logbook.com and download the eclipse software and play around with it. Split break is really easy, basically splitting not only the 11, but the 14 as well.

In the case of running 13.5 hours then taking an 8 hour sleeper, the driver only has .5 hours left on the 14 and doesn't matter if they have 7 hours available to drive, they are limited to .5 hours driving see.

 

This thread should be required reading for every DOT inspector and FMSCA employee.

Here we have 7 experienced drivers, all TRYING to do the right thing and no one can figure out the rules definitively.

 

Plenty of us can figure out these rules definitively. I understand the 8/2 split rules perfectly fine.

Just read the actual rule. It isn't complicated. People make it more complicated than it has to be.