Driving over 11 hours?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Thull, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. Flashdrive7

    Flashdrive7 Medium Load Member

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    The big companies I've worked at all said the same thing about driving over DOT limits, "No excuse. If you run out of hours before you find a parking place, that indicates poor trip planning"

    The lecture was nearly always given by a desk driver who had perhaps three or four years over the road. I personally do not like to drive more than ten hours per shift. I go buy the rule my trainer taught, start looking for a spot at the start of the eleventh hour.
     
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  3. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    That sounds like a company policy, not a dot reg.

    50 minutes, I wonder how they came to that number.
     
  4. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    At least you admit it was poor trip planning so use that excuse if the DOT or your company talks to you about it.You'll probably be safe.But in the future look for a place to park an hr or so before you run out of hours.
     
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  5. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    I know the answer to this. :D
     
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  6. CargoWahgo

    CargoWahgo Road Train Member

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    Up to 13 hours drive time in the USA due to weather or hazardous conditions...

    Add another hour for Canada.

    I once was not egregious by 1 minute and commited violations in both countries on the 14 day rule in Canada xD

    I was not staying in stupid Canada for 24 hours over that stupid crap. -.-
    The stupid qualcom screeched again as soon as I pulled away from my duty fee ...it was hilarious that stupid robot lady bout ratted me out.

    Got me a load going from Taylor to Laredo the next day ;). So worth the risk.
     
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  7. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Err... not quite.

    It is possible to add up to two hours to the normal 13 hours driving time (south of 60 degrees lat., or up to two hours plus the 15 hours normal above 60 degrees lat., but for simplicity we'll just discuss the south of 60 rules). The extended driving period actually comes out of the two hours of non-consecutive daily off-duty time (which I just explained here :D).

    So, if a driver encounters adverse driving conditions, or an emergency, or requires more driving time to reach a destination that provides safety for the occupants of the commercial vehicle and for other users of the road or the security of the commercial vehicle and its load, then they can drive up to 15 hours. When they stop for daily rest (10 hours required; eight consecutive, two non-consecutive), then they reduce the two hours non-consecutive by the equivalent amount of extra driving time.
    - http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2005-313/page-5.html#h-37

    And hey, you're still on schedule. :)
     
  8. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I am inclined to think the entire Trucking Structure at Dispatcher and Above a complete and ongoing emergency,.... /snarky...
     
  9. KMac

    KMac Road Train Member

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    This may be a company policy but there is no regulation that allows for that.
     
  10. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    You might be able to go into the ELD and edit out your 15 minute pretrip down to zero minutes and if you got fuel somewhere for 15 minutes, also edit that back to zero minutes and get yourself back to legal. Problem with that is that it is log falsifcation which might be worse than carrying a flagged ELD violation.

    Personally I think when the ELD mandate is in effect these extreme fines and punishments need to be lowered. So if a driver goes over 30 minutes such as in this case, fines should only be $2 bucks a minute or so.

    When they changed the hours of service back in 2004 to 11 hours driving, that 11th hour was never intended to be a production driving hour, it was meant as your 'safe haven' time to get to a park spot. Over the years drivers and dispatchers have gotten the idea that 11 hours driving production should be the norm; just drive til out of hours and stop on the side of the road for 10 hours.
     
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  11. Bo Hunt

    Bo Hunt Light Load Member

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    50 minutes? Too funny. I off duty drove from Indianapolis to Joplin to get home before (my booked load cancelled and I HAD to be home, no ready replacement load).
     
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