Driving over 11 hours?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Thull, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    My point and questions were rhetorical...of course.

    The current HOS rules as designed have to be some of the lamest rules ever concocted. Those of us who do this for a living know it.

    Then again, this path is well worn and needs no further input or explanation from me.
     
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  3. Ridgeline

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    I agree but have to add that these rules are for us, they are not for the company. If you think some are abused now by megas, then take the HOS away and see what abuse happens.

    I would like to see a return to the 1962 regulations which we had until 2005. That was the best one and allowed a lot of flexibility. Get rid of the 34 hour reset and go back to split sleeper.
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    By the same token, pay a salary and give us 10 days to get to California. No one will be late with anything that is not short of war. All the dispatch stress will go away.
     
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  5. Mark Kling

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    I understand and been there and done that... I had many an argument with my dispatchers on why I am not moving when my 14 hour clock runs out in 30 minutes sitting North of Dallas and they want me to run 20 miles to pick up at 5pm on a rainy day...
     
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  6. x1Heavy

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    I made a mistake of sleeping inside Highland Chicago where we had a ternimal, about 5 spaces from the dispatcher's door. At the stroke of the hour that my sleep time was supposed to be up, there he was beating on the berth like a roach or lumper crying for me to get my ### moving.

    That was when I made arrangements to get dispatched to another region like Denver or Phoenix, anywhere but Chicago dispatch. You do NOT want to see the horrible apparition that appears inside the drivers seat that fast after a sleep time.
     
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  7. scottied67

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    There's a good chance they won't fix it back at the office.

    1. in a DOT audit it will show up as an office Edit and they will dig further and see the log was falsified to cover up a violation.

    2. Fines for the carrier start at $11,000 to $16,000 for doing it.

    3. The carrier would be better served to show the violation on the logs they have to retain for 6 months and show they disciplined the driver up to firing the driver, but most likely counseling.
     
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  8. Moose1958

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    I would be interested to see where this is codified in the FMCSA rules. Not some summary, I mean the rule number.
     
  9. scottied67

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    (6) Egregious violations of driving-time limits in 49 CFR part 395. A driver who exceeds, and a motor carrier that requires or permits a driver to exceed, by more than 3 hours the driving-time limit in 49 CFR 395.3(a) or 395.5(a), as applicable, shall be deemed to have committed an egregious driving-time limit violation. In instances of an egregious driving-time violation, the Agency will consider the “gravity of the violation,” for purposes of 49 U.S.C. 521(b)(2)(D), sufficient to warrant imposition of penalties up to the maximum permitted by law.


    http://www.truckinginfo.com/article...g-for-violating-regulations-just-went-up.aspx

    "The maximum fine has gone from $11,000 to $16,000 for egregious hours of service violations..."
     
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  10. Moose1958

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    You do realize nothing about this changes my first post! If you are caught over your hours you will be placed OOS and fined because the states have their own policies on these fines. It don't matter if it is 5 minutes or 5 hours your gonna be OOS.
     
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