Please help!!!! Got a violation today!!!

Really? Well there's 60 seconds im never getting back, dude it's common sense don't use two pages for the same day,

 

lol, that be true.

However, if you read what was posted he didn't use two pages for the same day.

When you sign and date a legal document you put down the current date. Unless I'm reading it wrong that was his reasoning for putting March 11 on the sheet. It was March 11 when he filled it out and signed out.

Not the right way to do it but I can understand the reasoning.

 

Log book pages run 24 hours at a time. If you were "off duty" from 6pm on March 10 when you got home until 9am on March 13 when you rolled out, you would NOT complete an "off duty" log showing 24 hours of "off duty" for 3/10-3/13. You would have 3/10's log book page filled out showing that you completed your run and went up to line 1 at the end of the day. You would then show 24 hours "off duty" on line 1, with that page dated for 3/11-3/12. 3/13's log book page would begin on line 1 until 9am when you got to your truck and rolled out, at which point you would continue logging each change of duty status.

You can only log multiple days on the same page IF you were "off duty" for the ENTIRE day. Those multiple days must also occur in the same calendar month...which means if you arrive home on 3/30 and won't roll out again until 4/3, you would have a page showing you arrived home on the 30th, a page showing 24 hours off duty dated 3/31, then another page showing 24 hours "off duty" for 4/1-4/2, before starting your 4/3 log off duty and logging when you start your day.

Bottom line, you are not "off duty" all day on the day you return to work, just like you were not "off duty" all day on the day you arrived home. Those days get their own log book page and ONLY the days in between that were entirely "off duty" with NO changes of duty status to report can be logged on the single page.

 

oh ok sounded like two log books, after rereading, it now appears as two log book entry's with the same date. sure hope he's not running two books too

 

Thanks. I was told to fill out log book like that by my trainer, have had 7 inspections since then and have never been ticketed for that. Wow, just wow

 

I agree, you can make a multi day off log but the duty status must be the same for each day's entry ie usually Off Duty line all the way across the 24 hour period. So you draw the line and put inthe remarks, city/state and note multi day off with dates 030717-031017 all off duty for example.

031117 is a new day just carry over the Off Duty line to the current time you will be starting your 14 hour clock.

This is a pretty big violation especially if it was on a Driver Vehicle Inspection Report-- it falls under the Fatigued Basic which carries more points against the carrier and dings the driver hard for 3 years.

 

Just because he's a "trainer" doesn't mean he knows what he's doing...especially at a mega, where you're eligible to become a trainer 3 months after completing your own training, unless you sign up to L/P, in which case you could start training right out of the gate at some places.

 

Rest brakes. After june 30, 2013, driving is not permitted if more than 8 hours have passed since the end of the driver's last off-duty or sleeper-birth period of at least 30 minutes.

395.3. (3)(a)(2)(ii)

 

Wrong thread?

 

Oooops now I'm lost for sure.