"OH SHIFT" Steel Load securement?

peterbilt_2005 · Jul 28, 2017

GoPro has a cap attachment does take a little to slow your head movement so it's not a blur as you turn quick.

scottied67 said: ↑

I like the forehead camera he uses while driving.
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MACK E-6 · Jul 28, 2017

scottied67 said: ↑

I like the forehead camera he uses while driving.
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You would.

ChaoSS · Jul 28, 2017

MACK E-6 said: ↑

You would.
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I'm just glad it was you and not he that had the problem with the waterless urinals.

Just sayin..

Jeck · Jul 28, 2017

Razororange said: ↑

Agreed.

This problem could have been solved by the driver throwing a couple extra chains. An X across the front of the stack and the same at the rear.

You can keep most anything from moving with a single chain or a bulkhead made from wood and chained in place.

Once the load starts moving you are done. Momentum will keep it moving.

The driver in the video is lucky it wasn't a load of pipe. Many drivers have lost their lives from things like this.

Headache racks are doing nothing when something that weighs 40K lbs or more hits them at speed. At best it might deflect it from the driver. Steel bars or pipe will go through like butter though.
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Sorry I am new to flat bedding, I have used straps as a X Cross. Are you talking about using two sets of chains/binders by doing a X cross? Again I'm a rookie so any advice using chains is a plus. I was told if it has wheels it gets chained. I picked grain bin parts and noticed guys using chains so I asked. I am not afraid or embarrassed to ask I want to survive and succeed. Thanks!.

Razororange · Jul 29, 2017

Jeck said: ↑

Sorry I am new to flat bedding, I have used straps as a X Cross. Are you talking about using two sets of chains/binders by doing a X cross? Again I'm a rookie so any advice using chains is a plus. I was told if it has wheels it gets chained. I picked grain bin parts and noticed guys using chains so I asked. I am not afraid or embarrassed to ask I want to survive and succeed. Thanks!.
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Yes. The chains would cross on the front of the piece . The only way it can go forward then is to break the chains.

On each side you would run a chain from the edge of the trailer over the piece. Down at an angle on the front. Then go under the piece to the opposite side you started from. Do this on both sides and the piece will be secured from moving forward.

Jeck · Jul 29, 2017

Razororange said: ↑

Yes. The chains would cross on the front of the piece . The only way it can go forward then is to break the chains.

On each side you would run a chain from the edge of the trailer over the piece. Down at an angle on the front. Then go under the piece to the opposite side you started from. Do this on both sides and the piece will be secured from moving forward.
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Just to make sure. One side would start on the side of the cargo and then end up on the other side in front of the cargo. Same way on the other side. and you would do this on the back as well?
I have not used chains a whole lot. Maybe twice. I have a quickdraw system and it is easy to tighten the straps. With Chains I would have to go inside and climb on the stuff I'm hauling to check it. Sometimes this is not feasible. The only option would be open the quickdraw up to get to the front and back-sometimes.
thanks for your help!

MACK E-6 · Jul 29, 2017

ChaoSS said: ↑

I'm just glad it was you and not he that had the problem with the waterless urinals.

Just sayin..
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Ok, that was a visual I didn't need.

scottied67 · Jul 29, 2017

Animation video one way these sheets are used-

reverendhandy · Aug 3, 2017

Zeviander said: ↑

I don't want to make it seem like I'm picking on you, but a few of your facts are a little off.

Load was 31,590 lbs as stated by the driver. He's required by the law to secure 15,795 lbs Aggregate WLL (50% of load weight). If those are 3/8" binders and 5/16" Grade 70 chain, he has 28,200 lbs of securement in chain (4,700 lbs WLL for chain, 5,400 lbs WLL for binder; I counted six of each). More than the minimum and what the vast majority of deck drivers would use.

Because it's heavy, he's required to secure by weight, not by length. The length rule is two tiedowns for the first 10', then one tiedown for each other 10' section or portion thereof. The steel looked maybe 30' long. If it weren't heavy, he'd only have needed four tiedowns.

In both cases of weight and length, if the load is not blocked against forward movement, he would need to add an additional tiedown. Or build some sort of bulkhead.

A headache rack would only have slowed the load down. They are glorified chain racks. They are not designed to secure a load in place like a header board. Once it's moving, anything that gets in it's way is only taking away momentum. The idea is to prevent it from moving in the first place.

And load checks are required:

1) Within the first 50 miles (80km) of the trip.
2) After 150 miles (240km), three hours or at the next change of duty status, whichever occurs first.

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Best ways to avoid load shift (especially with steel):

1) Take what you are required to do by law. Double it. Then add 2-3 more tiedowns. Cover over 100% of the AWLL.
2) Ensure those tiedowns are properly protected from the load (edge protection) and are always tight.
3) Drive defensively, and predict problems before they involve you, don't rely on your brakes

This driver followed the rules, and in some cases exceed the bare minimum, yet still he had a problem. I'm sure the only reason his load shifted was heavy braking (like you said). No matter how good a driver's securement is, heavy enough braking will cause load shift. Once the braking force exceeds the total strength of the system, it will give way. And both chains and straps are only required to withstand 0.8g of forward decelerating force (I'm sure some manufacturers go higher, but one can't rely on that).
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I agree with you.
The only thing I would add, is that for that amount of weight for steel, I noticed he had only one belly wrap on the very front of the load, and it looked like a 2" ratchet strap.
Had he used a chain on the front and then another in the middle he could have prevented that much forward movement.
Also I didn't see any kind of blocking or stop in front of the load.

beastr123 · Aug 4, 2017

reverendhandy said: ↑

I agree with you.
The only thing I would add, is that for that amount of weight for steel, I noticed he had only one belly wrap on the very front of the load, and it looked like a 2" ratchet strap.
Had he used a chain on the front and then another in the middle he could have prevented that much forward movement.
Also I didn't see any kind of blocking or stop in front of the load.
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he also double stacked his 4x4s instead of singles with a 2x4 in the middle

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