Turbo charge killed our engine

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by erinjoe, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    Ok, first did the turbo wheel send shrapnel through the tubes to the cac or just oil. Either one you have to pull all intake tubing and clean shrapnel and oil from them even change the air filters. The cac take off and turn upside down and blow air in reverse to dislodge the shrapnel. If oil you need to have it washed out. You DONT NEED TO BUY A NEW ONE. unless it got damaged. If the mechanic just installed a turbo and nothing else... he didn't do his job correctly.
     
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  3. erinjoe

    erinjoe Bobtail Member

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    Thanks, guys, great advice
     
  4. Streetroddreams

    Streetroddreams Medium Load Member

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    Unicorn punch ?? How's that go with popcorn ??
     
  5. erinjoe

    erinjoe Bobtail Member

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    Sorry I should have been more clear.
    My truck had a turbo failure recently. Had to call a on road mechanic to replace it. He took $3000 to fix the turbo, he bought the turbo from an outside vendor. After the engine run for couple of minutes, I took off. I could not go any higher than 6th gear and the engine revd up real high and had to shut off immediately. After that the engine wont start after that. I called this guy again and asked him what happened. He didnt have any clue.
    I took this truck to freightliner where they diagnosed that we need a new engine. In their report they said that the person putting a new turbo has not cleaned CAC, precool charger, and that has caused the engine damage.
    What do you guys think, how should I proceed. what proofs I can get from the analysis.
     
  6. erinjoe

    erinjoe Bobtail Member

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    thats what it seems like, the cooler charger was not cleaned properly. It was a reman turbo from outside vendor. Is there any proof we can get that the mechanic was at fault.
     
  7. erinjoe

    erinjoe Bobtail Member

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    It was $50,000 according to freight liner to put a new engine.
     
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  8. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Yup - that’s what we all figured.

    Get quotes from other shops on a rebuild, depending on what engine, 50 k is WAY too high.
     
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  9. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    I think the OP added 1 to many zeros. This thread brings back some memories. I experienced this similar situation. At the time I did most of my work, still do. I tried to or did replace my turbo on the side of the road. I cleaned all the cold side tubing and replaced both air filters. I never thought about the CAC. Anyways . As I drove off, when I shifted to high range and boost kick in, suddenly lost power, boost.
    Long story short. I posted few years back on my experience with this. Total bill, $5000.00. Cat voided the first replacement turbo because I didn’t clean the CAC. I took responsibility. I wasn’t quite familiar at the time with CAT engines and the CAC. Had a Cummins for over 22 years. Anyways. I learn my lesson. You learned thru your mistakes. So that incident cost me 2 turbos. Since then I’ve learned much more and done a few upgrades and even change over to a Borg Warner turbo.
    To the OP..... your not alone on this one. Been there done that. Goodluck
     
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  10. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    How high did your engine rev before turning off? Oil seals leaking or oil getting into an intake will not rev and shut down on it's own. Unless it locks up which takes a while. I've personally tried locking up a 12.7 Detroit, I only got it to 2800 rpm down hill loaded, which does not blow a detroit. It blow up the fan hub if it's locked on however. This was on the cabage patch hill. Maybe some of you know who I am now. I've posted this on other sites. After that incident I drove home loaded to Michigan no problem with the bad hub. For less than $50,000 or equal to that installed, I know a Detroit guy that builds ### good 725hp 12.7 detroits.
     
  11. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    $50000 is the quote they give when they don't want your business. I would LOVE to see that written estimate. Unless a rod went through the block, I cant see needing a new engine. If shrapnel went into the combustion chamber, it may have damaged a valve and a piston, but even that wouldn't warrant a new engine. Get a quote from the engine manufacturer while you're at it.

    BTW, can you take a pic of the bill that the roadside guy gave you for the turbo install and post it here? Just cover up your personal info.
     
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