Trying to figure out 8/2, 2/8 Sleeper Split

Where I am confuse is, if I drive 2 and 1 on duty not driving, then take a 2 hours sleeper b. After that, I drive 6 hours and then took my other part of the 8hours sleeper b. Then I go back on duty not driving while getting unloaded for 1 hour. That makes 10 off duty on 8/2 split, 8 driving and 2 on duty not drivin. When can I restar my next 14???

 

The ONLY way to get a full and complete new 14 with current rules is to take 10 consecutive hours Off Duty or Sleeper. 8's and 2's will NEVER give you a fresh 14. All these will do is give you additional [unused prior] driving hours and extend 14's accordingly

So first and foremost, you need to get the idea out of your mind that a series of 8's and 2's will ever give you a fresh 14. Once you get that understood, then we can begin the next part of the explanation

 

Up until this week the 8/2 never worked for me. (And I let the computer figure out the hours)

But I went from Allentown PA to South Hampton NY last week and despite dispatch saying "oh it's only 4 hours away," (ME:"your map software has me going through Manhattan via the Lincoln and the Queens-Midtown!!!") I knew it was going to take a lot longer.

So I left at 3:45 am (because I was held back on hours from the PREVIOUS day) and as soon as my eLog went green I hit the road. I didn't roll into town until 9:00 and unfortunately I had to reposition the truck after I met with the receiver which tripped my drive line.

So I took 8 in the bunk and wanted to see what the UNIVAC would tell me I could do at 5:30p and lol and behold I had 5+ hours to get back to the shop.

I told dispatch I was taking the next day off because I couldn't have usable hours by the time they needed us dispatched the next day so I was "scratched" from the "flight line". (I still came in around noon and yard jockeyed for a few hours)

The industry isn't ready for this, only 3 months in and we're using split logs to cover what would be "wiggle room" in a 14 hour day. I had to be out for 21 hours because I couldn't be compliant in 18.

Edit: forgot to mention the other issue was the 6+hour unload time. White glove freight handled by a 3rd party unload crew. If I wasn't planning for the 8 hour split, maybe I'd have lent a hand and cracked the whip to get it unloaded faster, but a month ago that ended up with me abandoning my truck 20 miles from the warehouse because the hours had run out. I had my wife pick me up and we came back to get the truck at 2am.

 

The industry has had 14 years to get ready. Fourteen freaking years. Its quite obvious that the only way the industry would operate within the law is by being forced to.

 

Another basic example as is most often occurring. The concept works the same for other time amounts

Begin after a 10 hour break and have a fresh 14 and assume plenty of hours on the 70, and I'm leaving out extraneous time like PTI's fuel, etc ...

Start 08:00 .. so 14 ends at 22:00

1. Drive: 3 hours
2. Off Duty (or sleeper): 2 hours
3. Drive: 6 hours (it's now 19:00)
4. Sleeper: 8 hours (it's now 01:00)
   1. You now have added those 8 hours to your 14 (to 06:00)
   2. BUT you can only Drive the remaining 2 hours of Drive you did not use preceding the 8 hour break
5. So, Drive: 2 hours (now out of Drive hours at 03:00)
6. Break for 2 hours: (to 05:00) Now have 9 hours Drive available and a 14 that started at the completion of your last 8 hour sleeper

and you can continue on.

But again, it's important to note, 8/2 splits will never give a full, fresh 14, the 14 will always be "backdated" to start at the end of the qualifying break preceding the most recent qualifying break. Did I say that right?

 

The only time I found the split break useful is when I'd burn up a bunch of time at a dock and was running way behind the 8 ball on the 14.

 

If you run regional it can be the difference of 5 loads a week vs 3.

 

Soo close. In your example driver drove 3 hours|2 hour break|drive 6| 8 hour sleeper break| now is eligible to drive up to 5 hours not 2.

Remember on each side of the 2 hour break and each side of the 8 hours break we are allowed 11 hours drive time (if available on our clocks).

 

why bother? never needed to use it in 30 some yrs driving. OTR/ regional ,ect.