Hazmat during a 34

Discussion in 'Hazmat Trucking Forum' started by IluvCATS, Apr 20, 2018.

  1. Just passing by

    Just passing by Road Train Member

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    I apologize for the bad info. Apparently I need to dust up on my hazmat training. Thank you to all who corrected me!
     
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  3. shogun

    shogun Road Train Member

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    If chancing national security to watch a RomCom is worth it, then far be it from us to stop you.
     
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  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Don’t smoke near the trailer, or let anyone else do it.
     
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  5. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    If he goes to the movies then how can he stop people from smoking?
     
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  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I suppose you cant obviously, but it’s a good idea to keep burning things away from trailers sporting flammable placards. ;)
     
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  7. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Papers do not have to be visible from the outside. If you are away from the truck they cannot be on the dashboard. That is illegal. They must be either on the drivers seat or in the door pocket. That is the law. No exceptions.
     
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  8. joesmoothdog

    joesmoothdog Heavy Load Member

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    That's gonna get clipped. oops.
     
  9. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    §177.817 Shipping papers.
    (a) General requirements. A person may not accept a hazardous material for transportation or transport a hazardous material by highway unless that person has received a shipping paper prepared in accordance with part 172 of this subchapter or the material is excepted from shipping paper requirements under this subchapter. A subsequent carrier may not transport a hazardous material unless it is accompanied by a shipping paper prepared in accordance with part 172 of this subchapter, except for §172.204, which is not required.

    (b) Shipper certification. An initial carrier may not accept a hazardous material offered for transportation unless the shipping paper describing the material includes a shipper's certification which meets the requirements in §172.204 of this subchapter. Except for a hazardous waste, the certification is not required for shipments to be transported entirely by private carriage and for bulk shipments to be transported in a cargo tank supplied by the carrier.

    (c) Requirements when interlining with carriers by rail. A motor carrier shall mark on the shipping paper required by this section, if it offers or delivers a freight container or transport vehicle to a rail carrier for further transportation:

    (1) A description of the freight container or transport vehicle; and

    (2) The kind of placard affixed to the freight container or transport vehicle.

    (d) This subpart does not apply to a material that is excepted from shipping paper requirements as specified in §172.200 of this subchapter.

    (e) Shipping paper accessibility—accident or inspection. A driver of a motor vehicle containing hazardous material, and each carrier using such a vehicle, shall ensure that the shipping paper required by this section is readily available to, and recognizable by, authorities in the event of accident or inspection. Specifically, the driver and the carrier shall:

    (1) Clearly distinguish the shipping paper, if it is carried with other shipping papers or other papers of any kind, by either distinctively tabbing it or by having it appear first; and

    (2) Store the shipping paper as follows:

    (i) When the driver is at the vehicle's controls, the shipping paper shall be: (A) Within his immediate reach while he is restrained by the lap belt; and (B) either readily visible to a person entering the driver's compartment or in a holder which is mounted to the inside of the door on the driver's side of the vehicle.

    (ii) When the driver is not at the vehicle's controls, the shipping paper shall be: (A) In a holder which is mounted to the inside of the door on the driver's side of the vehicle; or (B) on the driver's seat in the vehicle.
     
  10. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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  11. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Nothing that goes BOOM. Explosive A through D (Im showing my age here be gentle)

    In my time we had a card, provided the 18 wheeler is legally parked in a safe haven for hazmat you can go off duty and be relieved of responsibility.

    When I hauled Hazmat there was really none of that. It's all baby sat until delivery. Then I go take off and do a movie or whatever.

    I did not keep the endorsement too many years, I had a dispatcher give me a hard time because I bypassed Baltimore on the Key Bridge as required of HM and made him wait 40 minutes more. I took care of that dispatcher permanently by not hauling anymore hazmat ever. If he was any good he would know darn well that you have to take the bridge to bypass the tunnels.

    I think you need to keep the bills where the fire dept can get to them. Side pockets of the door probably and or the seat up top. If your trailer has a bill holder, copies went into there.
     
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