Weird job offer

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by COBB2070, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    You are too kind by calling that a job offer.
    Personally I would call it a scam.
    Run away and don't look back.
     
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  3. GypsyWanderlust

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    I drive for Werner but I didn’t go through their Roadmasters training. I drive for them because it was the best choice for me and my dog with no experience.

    There is a whole thread if you want my personal experience but what is most important is that you drive for a company that works best for you and pays the most that you can get and has good benefits.

    It isn’t hard to get tuition financing for a community college CDL program. If you really want to drive look at all your options and not just the megas that offer in house over priced schooling.

    I regret many things, but paying for my own CDL isn’t one of those. My total cost was about $5500 and I really doubt you’ll find company training that doesn’t put you on the hook for at least $8000. I get a monthly reimbursement for tuition instead of feeling like the company owns me.

    Just my two bits. Best of luck to you and drive safely!
     
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  4. COBB2070

    COBB2070 Medium Load Member

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    Thanks @GypsyWanderlust, I'm taking my time. Got a lot of good advice from @Chinatown and others here. I'm not going to jump in until I'm totally comfortable with my decision. But the people I posted about called be back just a bit ago, even though I called and said no thanks. It was the "Regional driver manager" for the company and he answered most of my questions and I'm about to post them here to get more input, so look for it soon.
     
  5. COBB2070

    COBB2070 Medium Load Member

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    Another long one, but better long than you have to ask questions. Okay @ZVar, @REO6205 @Chinatown@deathB4decaf ... I called and said "No thanks" to Dryver on Friday. And just a little bit ago, the "Regional Driver Manager" for Dryver (how stupid does that sound) called me and asked if he could answer some of the questions I have because he understood I probably saw some "red flags". I said okay. Here's some of what he said. They have just signed a contract with Penske to position their non-CDL lease trucks. So they're building a base of qualified drivers to service the account. After "on boarding" with Dryver, you then must meet Penske requirements before you can work the account. Basically a half day to day of orientation he said. Penske covers insurance, breakdown and tows. Dryver provides a gas card. Dryer pays for hotel if necessary on long runs plus $60 per diem (thought it was higher now) and there may be times when you may go to Vegas, then Phoenix, then San Diego, then back to LA (if you want to) They pay actual drive time as the trucks are tracked, they will know about traffic, fuel stops, etc. In case of a breakdown, you are paid until the Lyft car comes to pick you up where ever the truck is towed. One way trips are paid at $29.50/hr and he said while base pay is $17/hr, I might be able to start higher.

    Now the bad. What he didn't have answers to. And he said he would get back to me by Monday night or Tuesday morning at the latest.
    1) He didn't know what the FMCSA is and said he didn't know if they fall under that. He said he would send out an email to find out (I could hear him typing right after I asked that one). I asked that if they say they don't, explain why and asked that they prove it in writing.
    2) He didn't know what HOS is. He said from what he's was told in a meeting, that drivers would almost never work more than 8-10 hours per day unless it was a longer delivery. Right now their plan is to run north to Sacramento/Reno east to Vegas/Phoenix and south to San Diego and build from there.
    To be fair to the guy, he said he was assigned to this position on Monday and he's still getting up to speed.
    Now I have to see if he calls me back.

    So new questions.
    I purposely didn't ask this of him, but is it possible they are running under Penske's authority?
    Is that possibly one of the reasons you have to be approved by Penske before you can work that account?
    If required, wouldn't the Penske trucks have ELD's already installed?
    Does that sound like fair pay, etc for what their offering?
    Any thing else I'm forgetting?

    Obviously if he comes back and says they're running under Pensk's authority, I want proof in writing.
    And obviously if they don't have ANY authority and claim they don't need it, it's a no go.
    And as another thought, maybe I should pull a "I may only have a little bit of experience in the industry, but you guys have none. Maybe bring me on in a capacity to help you work through this and get it off the ground". Couldn't hurt. Could be the next Uber (get in on the ground floor)
    Again, all input is welcome, just have to wait and see if I get the rest of my questions answered.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2019
  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    I honestly don't know the full regs on the owner side. Maybe @deathB4decaf can help as she is compliance for a drive away company.
     
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  7. COBB2070

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    What do you think of the idea of pimping them for a management or semi-management job? Seems all their people are in Ohio. I know I don't know everything (or much), but I know where to find it.
    I added @deathB4decaf to the above post....
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Blind leading the blind....
     
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  9. SteveBausch

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    I once posted a craigslist resume as “freshly minted CDL-A driver” with tanker and haz endorsements.

    Only response was from a company populated with Indian immigrants, hauling gasoline to independent convenience stores.

    Not sure they understood “freshly minted” ....

    “We forgot to mention this is 1099 job”
    Okay, so I set aside 40% of paycheck for taxes?

    Blank face and no response.

    Didn’t know how long the tanker was. One guy was confident it was 53 foot long.

    Trainer’s accent made it hard to understand him.

    Didn’t work out.

    Fine by me.
     
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  10. deathB4decaf

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    We are a drive away-tow away out of Ohio and are subject to FMCSA. Incredibly odd that they know nothing about it. If you were to be employed by them, even if operating under Penske authority, there is a whole slew of things they are required to do. You need to be in a drug and alcohol consortium, standard DOT physical that they must have on file for you, still subject to posting the authority information on the side of the truck, if the "load" you are driving is the commodity being delivered then you are not required ELDs and would still operate on paper, directly from the FMCSA website: In general, a USDOT Number is required if you are operating in interstate commerce and: You have vehicles that are over 10,000 lbs. (GVWR, GCWR, GVW or GCW) You transport between 9 and 15 passengers (including the driver) for compensation, whether direct or indirect. I feel like I could go on and on forever. Seems like they potentially do not understand what all regs they are violating or what it takes for them to drive legal. The way that they pay, hourly, confuses me a bit. https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/tools-and-samples/hr-qa/pages/cms_014392.aspx Most of our trips are one way, delivering or picking up the commodity. We do pay the driver's travel time back home because it would be required of them to return to the home terminal to perform their next task. The hourly pay doesn't sound bad as long as they are paying both ways and not requiring you to get home on your own dime.
    As for hours of service, HOS are required to be observed by any CMV. A commercial motor vehicle (CMV) is any vehicle used to transport goods or passengers for the profit of an individual or business. ... CMVs designed for heavy cargo, which may involve towed trailer units, are larger, more unwieldy and more powerful than most other vehicles on the road with complex gearing. Definition is also directly taken from the FMCSA website.

    Seems to me they are just not educated on what their business needs to do to be compliant.
     
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  11. COBB2070

    COBB2070 Medium Load Member

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    Thanks @deathB4decaf ... Right now what these people do is match private drivers and limousine drivers to people who need them. For instance if a couple want's to go out on the 4th and watch fireworks and get drunk, they will match them with a driver for the evening to their car (the clients car) from their home (or where ever) to events and back. I think they're trying to break into the drive away segment. I'll see what they say if they call me back today or tomorrow and see if they can satisfactorily answer the questions I had, and the new ones you've brought up. Not going to risk my DL for anybody or any amount of money.
     
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