TN annual OS permits

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  1. Double Dime

    Double Dime Light Load Member

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    As far as the electronic copy of the permits, I was told if the officer ask for a hard copy, you have to be able to provide one. I put a small copier in my truck.
     
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  3. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Are you still Landstar? Which permit service you use?
     
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  4. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Yessir.

    I use “The Permit Company “ - Texas office. There’s 2 in there I send a ‘donation’ to occasionally to get a little better service.

    West Coast Permits is usually good too.
     
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  5. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    Yes, you can get a over length annual. The only options are 75’ and 95’ overall though, with no mention of kingpin measurement. That is what threw me off, TN law states 50’ kingpin measurement, but the permit application only list total length.

    On the permit I got today it says “should keep copy in vehicle at all times, but a electronic copy will work in the absence of the paper copy”. Even that is kind of contradictory. I don’t know why they can’t make stuff plain where you (and the officer writing the ticket) can understand it.
     
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  6. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    A couple of years ago I talked to a guy in the TN permit office about a superload permit. He was the nicest government employee I’ve ever dealt with and tried to help me any way he could. He seemed almost excited to help. We ended up not doing the load and I didn’t write his name down, I wish I had because he was very helpful.
     
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  7. ETMF 58 White

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    I got a TN permit last week, just to go 20 miles through Memphis from Mississippi to Arkansas. I used TN-Trips and since it was a border-to-border route the computer approved it even though I was OSOW. But the application had that question about kingpin length and I wasn’t even sure what that was or how to measure it. What is the correct answer? And why does Tennessee say it may take up to 5 days to get a permit if I want to pick up a piece of equipment originating somewhere in the state other than at the border? All these other states we work in in the mid -South I just call up the permit office and tell the lady where I’m going and a credit card number and they email me a permit within a few minutes.
     
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  8. m16ty

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    During my call to the permit office, I was more or less told the “may take up to 5 days” was just to cover their butt in case there was a problem. The fact is, most permits are issued almost immediately.
     
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  9. m16ty

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    I’m just happy about the TN-trips process. Before it came about, the only way to get a permit was through a permit service or physically go to the permit office in Nashville personally.
     
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  10. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    TN - legal limit is 50’ from trailer kingpin to the end of trailer OR load. Anything over requires a permit.

    So, if a 48’ trailer with a 24” setback kingpin - could legally have 4’ of rear overhang on the load before requiring a permit.

    The whole permit deal across 48 states is wildly varied. California, for all its other restrictions, is rather lax on length. A third of the load can overhang. What? So a 90’ beam can sit on a 60’ trailer with a 30’ tail swing?! Yup.

    Yet TN wants a rear pilot car over 90’ overall. I’m 75’ overall at the 48’ closed mark before I even start stretching it out. I typically run around TN E-W if I can, it’s the odd one out in that region.

    Which makes me wonder if they know what fuel amd tax revenue they miss by having more restrictive permit laws than others - probably not.

    Missouri the same, I’ll drive 150 miles longer so I don’t have to fool with KC and STL restrictive curfews, or 2 lane curfews.

    Aaaah. Rules. Who needs ‘em.
     
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  11. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    We run probably 90% inside the boarders of TN, so I try to set my stuff up to run TN, and have to make changes for other states.

    Truth is, the Talbert trailer I’m talking about is a 2001 model and we’ve owned it since new. We have never been checked on the kingpin, but it is over. This year when ordering the annual I decided to get legal, because I figure we’ve been pushing our luck all these years, but when I read the application I got kind of confused. The trailer is 51.5 feet from kingpin to back. The trailer is a 3 axle, with a lift on the back axle.

    I also find it crazy that I’m supposed to run signs, lights, flags even empty. Looks like running signs empty would be a sure way to get pulled over.
     
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