30 min break workaround for otr

Nope, the 2 doesn't stop the 14 hour clock, only the 8 does. As long as your rest periods are legal, you add the hours from your current duty period and the last duty period, including the 2 hr break if that's your last rest period. As long as you're within the 11/14, you're legal.

 

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I think you mean "your new 11 would start after the second 2 hour break?" Because otherwise what would stop drivers from resting just 8 hours instead of 10?


Ok so say I came back on duty at 0400 drove until 0700. Then took the second 2 hour break ending at 0900. Now I have 8 hours left on my 11 and my 14 hour window would expire at 1800?

 

Your new 14/11 starts at the end on your 1st qualifying break, but you do not get a new 14/11 until you have completed both breaks. You need "the equivalent of 10 consecutive hours off duty" before you get a new day...

correct. So if you then drove 8 hours (1700) & stopped for 8 hours (0100) your "new" 14/11 would start at 0900 (but the 8 hours from 1700-0100 would not count against your 14)

 

new rules?? I have logged it off duty for 33 years, but back to the original post. I simply take a 30 minute lunch break .

if you are having to do 14 hours and not be able to take a 30 minute off duty break, you need to reassess your situation. you either have a bad job or are completely nuts.

 

I tried it a few times to gain some time back from the 30 minute break. It works only if you do not do a little On Duty safety type check or pretrip after the 8 Sleeper.

So lets say I'm coming off a 10 hour break, pretrip, drive 5.5 hours, take a 2 hour then drive 5.5 hours and an 8 Sleeper, back to work have 5.5 available again, my carrier wants to see another pretrip now. If I do a 15 minute pretrip I have saved a whole 15 minutes off the 30 minute break by split breaking, not really enough time savings for the trouble.

I'm not discounting split rules, just that it won't save much off the 30 minute break.

 

you would have had to log that inspection anyway taking a 10...

 

All that to work around a 30 min break. OMG. Why not just go off duty the first 30 min of the several hours you are loading or unloading. Break covered. Going around your ankle to get to your elbow. Lol. It amazes me how drivers can take something so easy and make it so hard.