34 hour reset logging question.

I was trying to be funny, not argue.

A full read of 395.2 shows many contradictions as to what should be logged. A good sophist can twist 395.2 like a stretch armstrong doll.

 

I apologize then.

Here's another one I love. Yard Move is illegal to use. Oh it's added to the ELD law, but the definition of Driving was never changed to allow it.
But yes, there are several fun little bits that are up to the officer that can interrupted to do whatever the officer wants it to say.

 

When I park for my 10 I log SB for the whole thing, whether it's 10 or 15 hours. I had my logs reviewed at a scale house in VA when I had a 36" sleeper and the DOT guy said "you mean to tell me you spent 13 hours in that little thing??" Lol I told him no, I just forgot to log off duty when I went inside to eat and shower. It was no big deal, I really think they could care less. A break is a break

 

For the most part that's true, which is why I said legally. Thing is there is always that one officer that's an ahole. And you did admit you falsified logs....

 

Honestly, all it comes down to in this type of situation is attitude. As former LE, I can personally tell you that it's a relief whenever you have a dealing with someone that doesn't give you a hard time and is just flat out honest about stuff. Could you imagine being a DOT officer and having to deal with today's truck drivers? Lol I'd go insane. I can't even deal with them at truck stops as another truck driver

 

And how does yard move play into the 30 minute break?

I caused a couple three meetings when I asked that back in July.

 

Technically its an On Duty Not Driving status... So it can be used for 30 min break... I fuel in Yard Move so I can go park after without doing the ELD creep to not interrupt my 30 min break.

 

I wish you could listen to the converstation between safety, it, regulatory, and legal. It was a mix between Waiting for Godot and Whose on First.

 

The simple fact that a companies safety dept critiques HOS rules to be what they want is enough of a red flag for me to not want to work for them... At my company, if FMCSA says it is legal we can do it... Period.

 

That's just it. Yard Move is a legal status in one section of 395, but illegal to actually use that status in another section of 395.
The guidance still states a yard move is illegal. The definition of Driving is stall "All time at the controls of a CMV" with no exception for yard moves. And after the Warner lawsuit do you really blame a company for being super paranoid and applying the section that states it's illegal?