393.60(e) Violation - What..

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  1. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    ...what would be REALLY funny is if you did as that WI DOT officer said and put your temp in your permit book, and then a WI HP pulled youy over, and inspected/cited for "improper display of license plate" because the temp was not displayed in the window...

    ...ESPECIALLY if it happened in the same county, with the same judge presiding over the matter.
     
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  3. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    You'd just lose both cases.
     
  4. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    No one remembers the WY cowboy that you to make sure and remove before UTor ID?
     
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  5. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Haha, yep forgot all about that!
     
  6. Studebaker Hawk

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    None of these "nit picking" violations are going to stop unless the merits are argued in the proper venue, that being in front of a judge in a court of law, and a precedent is then set. And in order to get there you have to be issued a citation. Calling scale houses, asking dot officers or your buddy across the counter, or I've done it X number of times before are not the final say. Only a judge at the highest court the case winds up in is.
    If you think you are right and you think you can win in front of a judge ask for a citation and fight it.
    This is something various professional organizations in this industry should be addressing. Some are to some degree. Most of the time it isn't worth it. My company's CSA score is nothing to write home about and we are not losing customers because of it.
    Every business that is regulated by a government has the same problem. Some say that is why the US economy is being strangled.
     
  7. snowwy

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    i've been driving around 2 months now, with no plate and temp registration sitting in the folder. cali scale stopped me once for a few seconds then let me go. haven't been checked yet.
     
  8. camionneur

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    Safety first, my field of view moves, as do windshield wipers, so I figure those are in violation when moving. If not, I just don't attach or affix the gps, therefore it's moveable, like wipers (perfectly within regs). Or what does it say, 'mount'? So I can't have it in my lap either, shoot.
     
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    Reason for edit: I just won't drive there...
  9. supersnackbar

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    In regards to the TN cop writing a ticket...get out your phone and record the conversation...video would be best. Making sure you show both the officer's face, and his badge if he allows you to get that close before beating you to a pulp with his trooper stick. It's always amazing how attitudes change when there is video evidence to prove a trooper wrong.

    As far as the temp permit in the window...When I was a Crete driver, and we got new trucks, we NEVER were required to put our permit in the window for the same issue you got popped for. If pulled over, we had one in our permit book...but I never got hassled for it, and most of my co-workers never got bothered either, and we ran a lot of the eastern states know for being 'DOT a-hole' states (MN, WI, IL, IN, OH and PA.)
     
  10. Raiderfanatic

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    I put mine in a zip lock baggie and taped it to the front of truck, where plate goes, while I was waiting for new plate. Plus kept a copy in my cab card. Went three weeks and never got called on it by DOT. A couple shippers or receivers made issues about it because I didn't have a tag number for them to record.
     
  11. not4hire

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    Get shorter wiper blades.
     
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