5/5 Split Sleeper discussion...

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Folk Fries, Apr 11, 2025.

  1. Folk Fries

    Folk Fries Light Load Member

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    Read on Land Line just now FMCSA extended an exemption for one company to continue to run a 5/5 split sleeper for teams. They denied a solo driver request some time earlier because he couldn't provide a plan that convinced them he would get "restorative" rest.

    My gut reaction is okay restorative rest is important. Equally important is that the negative effects of insufficient sleep is cumulative in my experience.

    So, what I think is fair is... coming off a 34 you should be able to do a 5/5 (or better but all the way up to the whole 10) the first 24 hours, then 6/4 the next day, etc.. until leveling out at 8/2.

    Maybe put in a provision that after 3 consecutive days of 8/2 or better you regain up to 7/3, 4 consecutive 6/4, etc

    Anyways, that is what feels fair to me and I'm interested to see other reactions
     
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  3. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    All I can say is back when 5/5 was legal I got about 4 hours of sleep per day when I was running during the week. The split wouldn’t be so bad now with elogs but back then I’d untarp/offload, drive to my pickup, reload/tarp, and grab a shower before I hit a scale. I’d log the break and catch everything else up and hit the road again.
     
  4. Folk Fries

    Folk Fries Light Load Member

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    It's probably bad manners to post on my own thing but after thinking about it I think an easier system would be 3 consecutive days of complete 10 hour breaks and your 14 hour clock resets and is ready to use after the 5 hour mark.

    So basically if you're well rested than one day of driving on a half nights sleep is safe. Can only do it once in any 4 day period.
     
  5. FullMetalJacket

    FullMetalJacket Road Train Member

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    I, personally, do not want them further complicating things any more. They've mucked things up far too much as it is.

    Like to at least see 5/5 through 8/2, or anything in between more than we have now. But, not something different on different days.

    Would at least be more like things were in the SAFER old days before they started mucking with all the HOS, even before the ELD mandate. At least we were able to break/rest on our own without being forced by an unforgiving clock countdown.
     
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  6. wulfman75

    wulfman75 Road Train Member

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    Just get rid of the 14 and things would be fine.
     
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  7. FullMetalJacket

    FullMetalJacket Road Train Member

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    Absolutely agree.
     
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  8. Folk Fries

    Folk Fries Light Load Member

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    What's more likely: the FMCSA gets rid of them altogether or they adjust the current rules?

    I don't see them getting rid of the rules altogether so it makes me sense to me to advocate for changes that benefit me especially when select companies get exemptions that benefit them.
     
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  9. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    I don't see why it would make a difference whether you're part of a team or solo, 5 hours of sleep is 5 hours of sleep. In fact, I'd say a solo probably gets more rest out of the 5 hours than someone trying to sleep while the truck is hopping over all of today's modern pothole and ski jump filled roads and bridges.
     
  10. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    And the 70 and the 8.... neither one have any purpose
     
  11. wulfman75

    wulfman75 Road Train Member

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    Never said they would just saying it's what they should do
     
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