8-2 split explained in an easy to understand format

I never could figure out the 8 to 2 sleeper either even know i have used it many many times... I know how it works but in terms of how much time is needed to complete the breaks but i get lost when it comes to figuring out how much time is coming back after breaks are done..... Elogs figures it out for me , so i guess technology isnt all bad....

 

It'll reset your 14, less the time that expired since the end of the 8-hour sb break. Nothing stops the 14-hour clock except a period of at least 8, but less than 10 consecutive hours in the sleeper.

 

If you drove 2 and then had two off you'll only have 10 left on the 14-hour clock. The 14-hour clock doesn't stop for the 2-hour break. It only stops for the 8-hour sleeper break.

 

Here’s my shot at explaining it:

The 8 hrs must be in sleeper berth. The 2 hrs can be off duty or sleeper. The 2 hrs are optional.

Example:
08:00, drive 7 hrs
15:00, take 8-hr sleeper break (pauses 14)
23:00, can drive 4 hrs max (due to 11-hr rule)
03:00, take 2-hr break
05:00, can drive 7 hrs max (new 14-hr clock starting from 23:00)

The new 14-hr clock only applies if you used the 2-hr break. If you only used the 8-hr sleeper, then there is no new 14-hr clock. There would only be a pause of the 14-hr. The pause is the entire 8-hr sleeper break.

The example above has been simplified. It’s missing two pre-trips and one post-trip inspection. You want a pre-trip at 08:00 and 23:00, and also a post-trip at 03:00 or 05:00.

Your ELD will do this automatically. Keep an eye on your summary tab to verify once the 8-hr sleeper or the 2-hr break have gone through. The 2-hr break is optional. Some people just use the 8-hr split once, and then continue their usual schedule of taking a 10-hr break.

 

Correct... I mis typed.

 

What if I make it within 2 hours of home at 2200 and hit my 11th hour. I shut down for my break. Can I leave before 0800 as long as I’m logged in the sleeper berth? If so, would it be at 0600 when 8 hours are complete?

 

The 8-hr split is only useful if you still have time in your 11. Most of the time when I do use an 8-hr split is during a multi-stop load when, for example, I deliver three loads in a day, and then shut down at the 3rd stop (if parking is available) to take an 8-hr sleeper break and make it on time for the 4th delivery. Some multi-stop loads are set up in a way that they almost require you to take an 8-hr split so that you can deliver all loads on time.

 

I’v never done the 8/2 split, but the way I understand it is you have to have time left on your 11 and 14. After the 8hr break you only have what was left on the original 11 to drive before the 2 assuming you have that much on the 14.

 

The 8-hr split can also be used the other way around. Instead of 8-hr sleeper and then 2 hrs, you can do 2 hrs and then take an 8-hr sleeper. It can get confusing. What I don’t remember is when the new 14-hr clock will begin if you use the 8-hr split in reverse.

 

Its insanely confusing. I use it but never plan it. Its just a thing where I get ready to drive again and saw some of my hours came back. "Oh, that 8/2 thingy just happened."

They need to scrap all that crap and just have a few rules, easy to understand. My opinion is 1 paragraph for HOS should explain it, not a novel.

You can be on duty for 12 hours in a 16 hr period. On duty means any work including drive. 10 hours resets you. And get rid of that 70 hr rule. A lot of us run recaps anyway. No need to study a textbook.

But anyway, i notice when it kicks into effect, but thats it. That 8/2 thingy.