Alcohol Refusal question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by mikewu9900, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. COBB2070

    COBB2070 Medium Load Member

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    Sorry @Moose1958 for some reason I thought they got the information for your DAC from your employer and the FMCSA safety measure system. So I guess my employer didn't report anything....
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    There is a part of me that wants to believe hireright can pull the PSP and MVR information right from the source. I have been told that hireright has access to the insurance CLUE database. I honestly don't know and am upfront about saying that. Then I read drivers claiming there is nothing at all on their DACs. I do know that a speeding ticket I got in North Carolina got on my DAC twice. I got a safety warning on that one. So what I am going to do is say DAC what it is. Where DAC gets their information I think comes the majority of the time from the carriers. However, I will not rule out other places. That is as honest as I know to be on this DAC question.
     
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  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Well @Frank Speak , looks like you are no longer the elder around here. :)
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    I appreciate your statement.

    Then you have a big problem with hireright, unfortunately I was a member of a class action against hireright for incorrect information that cost me economically in a very bad way for years trying to hire on to good quality carriers without the BS mega bottom feeding. I got maybe 26.00 out of it. The Lawyers who built that levithan and forced it through the courts to a verdict made off with millions of it.

    That is not your only problem. I researched and paid good money for investigating my background in trucking going back almost 40 years approximately. They find zip. Because usually the 10 year law requiring a scrub clean of all recordkeeping of violations or DAC etc. Many companies went out of business entirely, the problems went out with them. One called Covenant maintains their own in house private DAC of sorts with a group of 15 mega carriers in this Industry so that whatever you ever did in Covenant or any of the 15 companies associated with them will remain on the data base for life. They remembered that half day orientation that they sent me home. Then stated persona non grata and no rehire etc. (No love was lost with them then...) 4 piddling hours and you think a record written by that silly company makes a damning mountain of problems with me. HA... they need to get over themselves as I have.

    Thinking further. You need to build with original notarized lifetime MVR Records showing that you had whatever licensing you had every year of your life since 15 years old all the way to now. Whatever the license was valid each month of each year particularly the ones you claim not to have a CDL during that refusal etc. Hold that for evidence that you never had a CDL in your lifetime until a certain point fairly recently.

    Hireright has done you quite a bit of damage with that 2016 record screw up. I don't yet know anything about say 75 years of recording your violations. Usually after 3, 5, 7 or 10 years it drops off your records. UNLESS it is for life. It will never drop off. You can run to any other state to live in and those violations will just rubber stamp you in the new state following you all over the USA which was one of the big database goals for 2023 pending. (Another subject entirely. Once this database is up, every American Trucker who ever held a CDL will be in this living database at the federal, state, local levels so that no matter what anything you ever did bad with a CDL will haunt you.

    But thats a problem for another day.
     
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  6. ZVar

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    They do both actually. From their website....
    MVR: Direct access to all 50 states plus the District of Columbia
    CDLIS: Finds records by matching SSN and name
    PSP: Instant results returned from MCMIS

    Then there is this for employment history file.
    Includes driver work histories from participating motor carriers and truck driving schools

    There are a lot more services on their website, but that should give an idea of where they get some of their data.
     
  7. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

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    Wow, that pilgrim has me beat by around 13 centuries!
     
  8. mikewu9900

    mikewu9900 Light Load Member

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    Thanks for your lengthy and informative reply.

    I am originally from Rhode island. I moved to Florida in 2007. I had for a while wanted to get my CDL but was waiting for my daughter to get older. Then in 2016 the refusal occurred. So I never got the CDL and was told by several truck companies to wait 3 years for that to pass and then get the CDL then. I waited 3 years and 4 days after this to pass and got the CDL. I did go to Rhode island to get it. I had received news of my grandpa has cancer, so I packed up and went north to spend time with him. Also figured I can kill 2 bird with one stone and get my CDL.

    So now it's been 3 1/2 years roughly since the Refusal has happened and there's my dilemma. I returned to Florida and planned on staying there. I had a hell of a time finding any company that wanted to hire out of s. Florida, let a line a new driver with a less then perfect record. So I recently decided to make the move to Tennessee. Now my record looks messed up and companies keep rejecting me. I'm about to give it up and stay painting cars. I've been doing that for 18 years and make a good living. I'm just not wanting it anymore and always wanted to drive like my dad has done for 40 years. Not sure where else to go or say on this post.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    I appreciate your heartfelt story.

    Tell that to the prospective employer and that will cover some of your time invested with grandpa etc And it wont look so bad.

    I think after 5 years your refusal will become moot. Tennessee is a good ground for trucking.

    @Chinatown, what can one do with this one? If anyone would know it will be him.
     
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  10. Chinatown

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    Where are you in Tennessee?
    Rusty Dog Express in Lebanon, TN gives some drivers a 2nd chance.
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    When you were in Florida, did you try Florida Beauty Express, which gives drivers a second chance? This company hires South Florida drivers.
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    It's best to submit the online applications before calling. This way you can call in a day or so and say, "I'm checking on my job application."
    Don't volunteer any information that isn't specifically asked for. It's easy to sabotage job prospects by talking too much.
     
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  11. mikewu9900

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