Chain Pay?

Ok just for argumentative sake let's go with your viewpoint ... So should they get their cpm cut in the mouths they don't have to chain up ?
Or since you feel they should get paid to chain up how much is a fair rate ?
Or heres another thought....they have 2 options..... when the chain law is in effect they just pull off and wait it out and not make a dime because their not moving..or option 2 they can throw their chains for free and keep moving making some sort of money.... thats how it works for the O/0s
So should they get paid when their sitting in a traffic backup because there was a accident and traffic is stalled too? After all their not making money then either
Heres a idea let's just make it mandatory that every driver that is a company driver join the Teamsters Union and you can be the new Union President I think thats a great idea
I bet you will find out were Jim Hoffa is buried then you can take a dirt nap right beside him

 

For argumentative sake, OTR Truckload should 100% follow LTL linehauls example and I say that as someone who has done both but prefers OTR truckload.

LTL linehaul guys are on a CPM pay range and they can still get paid for on duty items, such as "building" and "breaking" sets (AKA drop and hook), fueling, immediate breakdown pay when they call in the breakdown, etc. etc. All while the companies remain very healthy and very profitable. There's no reason OTR Truckload companies can't follow LTL linehaul's lead.

I don't know why it's so controversial for me to say, to other drivers themselves no less, that drivers should get paid for doing on duty items, while not seeing our CPM wages decreased.

I guess I'm a real rebel in that regard.

 

Because chaining up, carrying the chains, maintaining them takes extra time.

All the delays with dangerous winds.

If you have a health emergency, you might be 500+ miles from a decent hospital.

When I was with Schneider and Heartland, the west coast drivers made less than the drivers in the east and I thought they had it harder. I never had to carry chains with me when I ran the east. Never had to worry about being buried under an avalanche on the Snowqualmie Pass.

 

Well, look at the traffic overlay on Google maps tonight and explain why folks running east of the Mississippi shouldn't be paid an extra 10 cpm.

Fact: ODFL would pay us an extra 5cpm (I forget what it was), as soon as we crossed the OH/PA line running east. Nothing for running west.

I would argue that a CPM driver makes better money running west of the MS river due to less congestion.

 

I thought about it some so here is my answer to this question. No CPM pay should not be cut for OTR Truckload drivers if they are getting paid for doing on duty items.

As for chain pay, obviously chaining is a reality that drivers who run that region reguarly must face. The lowest minimum wage states are at $7.25 per hour right now. Let's round up to $8 for simplicity sake.

I believe that drivers, even those who run areas where chaining is reguarly required, should be paid $8 for putting chains on and $8 for taking chains off. Each time they do that. If it's a local or regional driver that drives through those areas and only those areas, if those companies want to only hire people who can prove that they can chain within 30 minutes during that drivers orientation drivers test, then said companies should pay the drivers $4 for putting the chains on in 30 minutes and $4 for taking the chains off in 30 minutes.

For OTR drivers I would imagine it takes a lot of us closer to the hour mark to chain if we are not running those regions all the time. So, I think it would be fair to pay us $8 to put the chains on and $8 to take the chains off, if it's going to take us an hour to do it correctly and safely.

With the caveat of course that drivers reserve the right, as always, to not proceed and not get punished for it if they do not feel that they can safely do so.

I think getting paid minimum wage would be a good starting point.

 

Your hourly rate is not out of line 16.00 is not out of line but how would you make them prove they threw chains ?
If I was a company owner I would make them show proof they chained up

 

Called a log book (ELD) and all the cameras they have access too. HA HA