Creeping around ?

AOBRD will not trip over to drive line until the BOT parameters are met. Usually it is about a mile and half. So yes, you can creep around under 15 miles per hour either Off Duty or Sleeper. A lot of drivers do this at customers for example, arrive 5 hours early for appointment and park out front on street. Roll into customer Sleeper or Off Duty and check in then get assigned dock and get (un)loaded. Roll back out to the street Off Duty or Sleeper and finish the "10" then log On Duty to complete Loaded/Empty Call and receive next dispatch.

ELD will not allow these creep around stuff. As soon as the wheels roll, the ELD trips over to Drive line.

Drivers currently with AOBRD will continue to Creep around til December 18, 2019 but ELD'ers will not be able to Creep around at all beginning December 18,2017

Off Duty Driving is illegal while "Laden" which could be interpreted for our purposes as "Loaded" or "Dispatched" even though the trailer might be empty the "intent" is that the driver is dispatched then therefore going to be laden so that would fall under "advancing toward your next load". Generally drivers get away with this all day long but an audit back at your company headquarters within 6 months of the falsification of the logs could cost you and your company thousands of dollars.

 

Of course it is. Don't you know that e loggers are all legal?

 

I just think getting on a public website asking how to get around or skirt the system is an asinine idea.

 

Dude, the freight has to go! Hell yes, but I'm on paper...

I haul automotive freight, critical, we get a load we go. If the plant shuts down, that is exponential in costs... Hundreds of thousands of dollars or more in some cases. Things are ramping up here in Detroit as more plants are finishing up there retooling... We run round the clock and have an excellent safety record, GM carrier of the year to boot. I am already trying to figure out where to put the on off switch for the ELD they will install in my truck NEXT YEAR. Yes, next year. The Big 3 are not ready in the least for all of this, and neither are our Michigan State Police... Everything is a mess, and there is little if any relief in sight. You think your cars cost a lot now, just wait! LOL! Hopefully, I'm getting a raise! Rates are already going up, hitting $6 a mile this week +... Just saying. I'm exaggerating, it was $5 and change. LOL!

 

You run AG, what are the cattle haulers going to do? Seriously. The guys hauling produce, same thing. This industry does not fit in a box, it never has and everyone knows it, including the DOT. It is all about attitude and competency, and being polite to the nice DOT officer. We all have a job to do, and I remember when we used to do it, without all of the bellyaching.

 

Dude, you are spot on in your thinking, and nothing wrong with any of it. This is not an occupation that fits in a box, or a cubicle. Stuff happens, and we still need to do our jobs. You listen to these anal pricks on here and it will mess with your head. Reality is reality, and the box is to small, no leeway to do your assigned task. This is not rocket science and or requires pills or multiple log books to accomplish. It is a job, and the job has to be done. It will not be done if one is sitting needlessly in a truck stop or on the side of the road. Again, not rocket science. This country has been regulated to death, and it is a sad commentary that so many fall for this nonsense. Drug addicts and girly men, not the country I was RAISED IN.

 

Your'e right, this industry does not fit into a box, and one-size-fits-all regulations are just going to complicate things. I haul privately-owned vehicles (POVs) for a living, and you can think of it as long-haul LTL (in fact, that's exactly what it is). Our operation will be able to cope only because we run teams; but what about the solo O/O? As usual with the D.C. crowd, I highly suspect that, when this mandate was made, not a whole lot of thought was put into it.

 

Bingo, I'm solo, and go nowhere. I rarely break 70 in a week, but easily pull 24 straight on familiar roads with 30 years under my belt and am compensated appropriately. Carrier of the year with a 5 star safety rating to boot. You hire us, and the job is done, SAFELY and to expectations. We take some sheet, and we deliver. And we do it with a smile.

 

I remember those days to. As far as the cattle hauling bunch of em are quitting. I couldn't agree more this industry don't fit in a box. Especially live animals. It's hard enough on em. Especially summer. People don't realize most of us that haul livestock are not solely in it for the money. It's our way of life, it's a ####ty industry at best yet some one has to do it. As far as what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do what I have done since 1996, and that is give em the best ride I can even if it's their last.

I should have worded it different. The point I was trying to make is asking things like this out in the open could make everyone's situation worse as in change what the ELD's will and won't let you by with. Another example in those lines are guys fighting to keep paper logs for flexibility. I understand you need info. I just don't know how to tell you to get it