Dangerous turns?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mototom, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. Concorde

    Concorde Heavy Load Member

    Jun 29, 2016
    West Melbourne Florida
    I’m going to guess and say that nothing is wrong with the gyro in your camera. It may just be sensitive because your company set it to be that way.
    Just drive normal and safe for now. I’m sure if your safety department was concerned they would have talked to you about it already.
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  3. HD_Renegade

    HD_Renegade Road Train Member

    Dec 20, 2010
    North Carolina
    Turn you Jake brake off when empty. The truck will be smoother.
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  4. FlaSwampRat

    FlaSwampRat Road Train Member

    Jun 1, 2019
    Valrico FL
    You ####ing rebel lol. You should be flipping burgers because you make the roads completely unsafe. TTR logic lol
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  5. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2016
    White County, Arkansas
    You are no longer a trucker. You are a hamster in a wheel waiting to be dismissed (Fired) when the big G force sensor sets off the suits monitoring it one too many times. My suggestion to you is to change companies to those that dont have that. I offer that some vehicle systems do have computers that capture a rolling previous 30 seconds prior to any collision or event that preserves the data for forensic accident investigation if any. Its all there in that little black box under the back seat of one of our newer vehicles. It also records the pedal positions, force applied, status of everything across the board.

    Buy a go pro or good quality camera of your own. Roll it constantly. If your company sensor goes off on you with alarm or beep or notification because you had to work around a idiot in his or her car or whatever. even bouncing across a moonsscaped truckstop will do it. You can take that video and show anyone who has called you into the back office to discuss this ge force event prior to deciding if they should fire you or not. They will see your tape (Video) and understand what caused their sensor to go off. Maybe it's TOO sensitive. That is what I think.

    One time my employer long ago gave me a good tractor. I made it 1 mile out of the yard working through my shift tree upshifting against a freeway upgrade. I see there is a new gauge that is a giant version telling me I am going through too much fuel too quickly with a giant neon needle swinging all over in my face and alarm going off every time that stupid hammer was applied for power. When you are near harrisburg you are hitting many hills.

    I turned that truck around and drove back to that employer and said I will not put up with this bs alarm and gauge in that one. You have another tractor that is "Normal" for me or you find another employee. (I see that you have 4 in the road trip situation today in the other room so .. its not a loss for employer if I quit)

    They gave me a normal tractor. But continued to track everything quietly over the satellite. (That really does not bother me too much.)

    Drive 1600 miles and still need to fill with 300 gallons of fuel. Driving more carefully will not make a difference when I fill with just 270 gallons. About 50 dollars in fuel in those days. Not to me as a driver. There is no incentative. Now if you were a fleet with 300 trucks buying fuel at a 50 dollar savings twice a week that's about $30,000 dollars cash into your fleet pocket more or less.

    YOU the company have the incentative. NOT me the driver. I have no reason to be less burning fuel, run a hill very slowly trying to keep that stupid gauge in the green. There are times that big CAT has to eat. Or pack up the whole outfit and get out of PA and move to a state where it's flat. But I will not be following you over there in that truck nope.

    I am a trucker. Set in my ways, I have gained a understanding that certain things are important to look for in safety among other things. But I refuse to say that I drive a vehicle that has 15 alarms when I cross a curb too hard or spin the wheel fast trying to stuff a 53 into a tiny shipper (Rocking cab sideways) etc. I will not waste my time or the company time in constant back room explaining of every little event alarm. That is not trucking.

    That is micromanagment.

    They might as well fire the whole human driver workforce and buy robot trucks capable of making sure there are no alarms anywhere. Be my guest. You would be sitting in that back room with several suits buried in reams of printer spreadsheets making sure none of your robot trucks bounced too hard today.

    With that picture in mind, you are no longer working as a trucking company. You have become a grotesque form of safety enforcement to the max. It would be more free to go trucking in the former USSR rather than put up with a G meter that goes off everytime I hit a pothole. And the company that invests in that kind of BS monitoring is NOT a trucking company anymore. They forget their reason for being.
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  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    Dec 18, 2011
    "The truck is NOT going to roll I’m not driving like mad max it’s just a bit bumpy"

    How do you know?

    These systems are setup to go off when the g force angles meet a specific set of levels, so maybe the camera knows more than you do.
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  7. Ffx95

    Ffx95 Heavy Load Member

    May 18, 2017
    I’ve set mines off on a quick turn. Not enough to roll but you can feel the weight shift on the tractor obviously while the trailer is empty. Some places are so busy you have to do this or else you might instigate an accident. I can think of one on the spot. North Bergen the la frida meats store at tonnelle ave you’re merging onto us 1-9 and you have so little time to get in and those 4 wheeelers are never paying attention or give you a chance. So you have to honk that air horn and take a sharp and quick turn. They REALLY need to put a traffic light there.
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  8. Ffx95

    Ffx95 Heavy Load Member

    May 18, 2017
    Check her out. You also need to block the highway to back in the dock. I’m the only guy in my fleet that still accepts to deliver here so I go here a lot. Lady that checks the driver cams already knows the situation once she sees this street come up lol.

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  9. RoadRooster

    RoadRooster Road Train Member

    May 10, 2015
    Fort Myers, Florida
    Put the center visor down so you can't see the lights on the camera. You won't worry so much that way. Then, drive slower, gentler turns, liked others suggested. Just pay attention to your driving.

    You will still get a call from safety somewhere along the way. Take the call as a learning experience. Not a defensive exorrience.

    Ask the safety person your overall score at the end of the call and where you show weakness so that you can learn.

    Im experienced, I drive so slow that the Amish put triangles on the back of my truck, and I got a call from safety. It's not a big deal.

    Quit sweating and enjoy the ride, and learn from all safety calls.
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  10. Mototom

    Mototom Medium Load Member

    May 7, 2019
    Because if it was going to roll I’d get a nice alarm and the truck would tag the brakes hard.
    From going back through my messages I’m starting to see that it might be because when I’m doing a button hook quickly it’s registering that I’m “swerving” the tractor as if I’m steering around someone.
  11. Mototom

    Mototom Medium Load Member

    May 7, 2019
    I like this company a lot they seem fairly reasonable but this thing stresses me out sometimes. Like if I am doing something wrong just point it out so I can fix it.

    My safety score is an 83% because of an accident when I was new and one safety call (the merging, I am grandpa when changing lanes now)
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