Downshifting without revving up the engine?

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  1. Dave1837

    Dave1837 Road Train Member

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    The only thing I can think of is the clutch brake. Stopping the trans, getting it in the slot, then it goes fully into gear when the clutch is released. Other than a medium duty truck with a synchronized 6 speed my mind is blown
     
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    Unless there’s a video of it I’m going to call bs or Ed is a magician.


    Just no way to downshift unless rpm’s are raised either by your foot or by double clutching. Even then with double clutching I don’t see it done without rpm matching.
     
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    As mentioned. The only way possible would be to go neutral and brake till the speed matches engine.

    But what would be the point? No jake efficiency doing it that way. Might as well just brake in neutral.

    Ed is going to have to post a YouTube for the people to see.
     
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    I don't understand it either. Thats why I created this thread.
     
    LoneRanger Thanks this.
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    You all should wonder …

    why does the truck have a new transmission.
     
  6. LoneRanger

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    thats the thing soon as I pull it out of gear rpm drops, if I double clutch and put it in a lower gear rpm’s go up naturally.

    there is no way he was downshifting.
     
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    Sounds like Ed mastered this magical downshifting technique at the cost of his old transmission
     
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    I said in the OP: Maybe it would be more accurate to call what Ed was doing "gear recovery" rather than downshifting.
     
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    Gear recovery works on upshifting, but the same rpm limitations apply to downshifting. You cannot downshift into a gear until flywheel RPMs match the transmission RPMs. There are only 3 ways this is possible:
    1: Slow the truck down until transmission gear speed matches flywheel speed. The uneconomical way
    2: Increase the flywheel speed to match the transmission gear speed. The way most of us drive
    3: Slam it into gear and break ####. The way Swift drove when they had manual transmissions

    Any other way simply won't work. If it did, every automated manual manufacturer would have it programmed into the systems to do it.
     
  10. Numb

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    why is Ed lugging the engine before downshifting?