Easy Trip Planning

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by scottied67, Jul 17, 2016.

  1. AbbandonZK

    AbbandonZK Light Load Member

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    You'd position yourself close as you can to the shipper. That means in Cheyenne, petro in Loveland or Denver terminal. You go to Cheyenne if you try to park anytime past 8pm. Each is at max a 1.3hr drive from greenly. Go to shipper and pray they load you in one hour. Scale of need be. As long as the truck can do 65 meaning it can average 55 in 2-3 hour stretches provided that the load is less than 35k. Burn 10 hours driving end the day 1 at 4am with 500 miles done at least. You've just gone up I-70. Maybe you make it to Richfield, Salina, one of the many rest areas (No trucks sign be ######) or maybe your in green river cause you like to sleep. You have to make it to Richfield, if you didn't your going to be late. Start driving at 2:20pm Sunday. Your gonna need to speed thru Cali 60mph at least. Gotta keep that average mph up. End that day around 2am at the final Monday morning if they let you park there. Or park elsewhere earlier (Hesperia) and pull a 8 hour break knowing that the Cali consignee is going to loaf around unloading your or take a lunch break.

    You shouldn't be attempting a load like this is a SWIFT truck. Or any sub 65mph truck. I wouldn't take this load because; it's going to Cali, the pu and del time and in order to pull off perfect 10 hour breaks you gonna have to sacrifice something in order to get rest. S^3 is the most important thing out here.
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    That is the main idea of the video. I had just repowered 2 loads in a row that were running late. 1st one didn't hurt me, in fact it was about 30 miles more than the load I traded. Mine was to deliver in Albu, but the repower was going 30 miles further into Los Lunas NM and the driver was chickenspit to find a 10 hour break parking spot around there.

    After I got empty, they offered me a great load from NM to FL but then canceled it and said they really needed me to run this other guy's load out to Los Angeles (shorter load) so that hurt me miles wise.

    I can do this trip planning in my head, but I was thinking of all the things I should be telling the viewer. Remember there are still a ton of drivers out there who believe after 8 days of work, they are required to take a 34 hour break. What I was trying to do is demonstrate how to project out days ahead what you have coming back from days ago. May not have seen it but I fired up the RM while shuffling the QC back to the seat. It was important to use the calculator to demonstrate step by step for some of these guys how to figure their hours to miles ratio estimate. Yes I agree I ramble and my production is very rough and unscripted-- gonzo.

    I run midwest time but the load picked up in CA and ends in CO. Think they are on mountain time. I don't worry about time zones too much, my RM calcs that for me. Wasn't worried about ending at 2200, was planning on getting up to the Rio in Las Vegas and getting a suite. Plan fell apart due to too long at shipper and major traffic coming up I-15. Well that, and I probably started my 14 hour clock too soon. \\

    But like I say I trip plan loads like this all the time in my head but I wanted to show a simple way to plot out estimated 14 hour windows and estimated 10 hour breaks and such for the drivers out there having trouble with trip planning.
     
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  4. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Too many hills to make 700 legal miles in a day on this route-- City of Industry CA to Denver CO.

    I wanted to make 400 miles today, QC says I did 297. Still 5 hours ahead of schedule. Your way, way too many hours ahead of schedule sitting waiting for unload perhaps even on a side road next to customer 1.5 miles walking to the nearest food and toilet.

    Parking an hour away doesn't have to hurt the driver's production. Drive one hour to customer, get unloaded in one hour. Show 15 minutes for the unload on duty the rest of the time off duty or sleeper, pull over tothe side and make it look like 2 hours off duty or sleeper or combo of the two, already knocked out 2 hours of our 10 hour break. Drive rest of hours out for the day and take 8 solid hours in the sleeper and get to work.
     
  5. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    The point was someone saying they would "never" park an hour away from the receiver because it burns up his driving clock. I gave that run as an example. Besides the weight, Eisenhower, and Vale, you have Sunday traffic on I-15 westbound. No question you're parking more than an hour away from the receiver, if you try to run that traffic, you'll burn your clock and miss the appointment.

    I've ran into many situations and cities where there wasnt a choice because of schedule and traffic.
     
  6. AbbandonZK

    AbbandonZK Light Load Member

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    When you did the run were you on time? I thought my planning was close enough.
     
  7. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    Yeah. I was on time both times. The first just barely. The second I knew what to expect and planned it much better plus I was in my prostar.. no governor, more power, and a lot better gearing than the Cassie I was driving the first time.

    Btw.. the load is beef out of jbs. Both times I scaled out just under 80k.
     
  8. AbbandonZK

    AbbandonZK Light Load Member

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    here im planning on a 65mph truck and your blowing doors off. What places did you did you park? I'm curious on how a trip like this actually unfolds.
     
  9. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Ok. Let's use the Dave method of trip planning.
    The Dave method involves training your DM to give you good runs.
    Dave noticed very early on in his driving career, if you can navigate & be on time, every time, especially on wtf F UP runs, then you will be consistently punished with them.
    Dave noticed the driver that can't navigate from the truck stop back to the interstate, consistently ran across 40 and 10, because that's all the driver is capable of.
    So using the Dave method, simply accept all loads, and run them until you are out of hours at the nearest nice truck stop, then tell DM you need repower.
    Once DM experiences enough pain, he will learn to give you the no brainer runs.
    DM cannot just leave you, so be not afraid, he has a boss too, and your truck needs to stay moving.
     
  10. coueshunter

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    I plan way ahead and rarely sit.. I'd rather get there and get unloaded early which works 70% of the time...
    Grab another load and be 700 miles the other direction by the time you get done...

    I guess I do okay running 4K miles a week on Elogs...
     
  11. KeithT1967

    KeithT1967 Road Train Member

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    First time I got caught big time in sunday afternoon traffic just south of vegas. Barely made Whiskey Petes at the Cali line. Rolled into the receiver with minutes to spare.

    Second time I was able to almost hit St George UT early am Sunday. Rolled into Colton late Sunday afternoon. Parked on the street outside Lineage. Did an 8 and rolled at 5:30ish.... worth blowing the 14 to avoid the traffic. I still burnt a lot of clock in Sunday traffic but much less stress involved.
     
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