Editable ELD

For compliant ELD's you are correct. Electronic logs that do not qualify as ELD's (Big Road, Keep Truckin', etc) still must print if demanded.

 

I'm thinking the op said edible elds.
I was hungry when I read it.

 

As long as there are programmers out there willing to hack and edit code, an "approved" ELD can be made to where it no longer complies with the regulation that edits are annotated and original data cannot be overwritten. It's just a matter of plugging into the device and altering the program. If you don't know how to do that, for enough money I'm sure you could find someone with the capability to do that.

If I was computer savvy, it wouldn't be a bad business to transition into...FMCSA couldn't touch you because you aren't using the device. The person bringing you the device owns it, so you aren't breaking into anything you don't have permission to access. The only ones who MIGHT get caught would be your clients...IF they were dumb enough to let the DOT know they're running a "tampered with" ELD. Otherwise, it would give the appearance of being in compliance because the device they are using is on the "approved" list.

 

You have to hack the satellite as well and since gps is military that's a big nono.

 

Is that for a company driver or an O/O? Losing $150/week is $7800/year. Then you have the cost of the service subscription you're losing on top of that which could be another $550 or so per year depending on how much "fleet management" BS the carrier wants to include with the device.

That right there is $8350 reasons NOT to want an ELD in my truck.

 

No, the alteration would simply allow untraceable edits to be made, so that original data would be overwritten and no annotations would be made signaling that an edit had been made. If you don't edit anything, it would still function as designed...but now if it didn't say what you needed it to say, you go in and make the changes and nobody's the wiser because the original data you needed changed is no longer there. The "edited" version is simply made to appear as though it is the original.

 

there are approved eld's without subscription. no o/o will pay monthly fee for eld.

https://www.vdoroadlog.com/products/electronic-logging-devices-eld/roadlog-eld/

very soon we will see more this kind of devices. these once will be hacked I guess..)))

 

It is the indirect savings of over $11,000 ++ from not having to deal with potential hours of service fines. I believe a log falsification costs $11,000 just to the carrier alone, the driver gets hit with several hundred dollar fine for the same violation. Should pay for itself the very first day of use.

 

$11k is a beyond egregious violation, not an everyday normal forgetting to log off-duty for a break. I've never heard of nor seen anyone receive such a fine. We get a JJ Keller newsletter listing recent violations and fines and the $11k figure would be extreme from what I've seen. So, not really that much of a savings.

It won't be long and they'll be figuring out ways to collect revenue for phony baloney violations with ELDs as well.