Effects of CSA 2010?

Yes and the limited space in the magazine leads to people thinking that is the entire story. It is not, and probably (I'll have to look back) had an address to fully investigate what they were trying to tell you.

I like the folks at Landline. But constraints on space, time, and the shear volume of information needed to address this new program leads to drivers getting the wrong ideas. Well that and their own laziness for not doing their own homework.

It's your License, and your career I would humbly suggest you spend far more than two hours, or just getting your information from a magazine. It is gonna take far more work than that.

 

Do you guys wan to fight this and win it? It would take every truck driver in the nation to stand together and protest it en masse. If every single driver out there after their 10 hour break logged 9.75 hours they can't fire all of us. If every single truck driver would idle his rig 24 hours a day they can't fire all of us. If every single truck driver parked their rig for a week they can't fire all of us. And they would realize they have finally pushed us too far....

 

This is a good observation, and a reletive veiwpoint that I have to agree upon.

The carrier shouldn't get any points, imo, if I refuse to properly secure a 48,500 load. Though, often times that same 48,500 will put a truck overweight (for the sake of arguement), and a carrier (DM,FM,ect) will try to talk a driver into delivering the load anyway. This practice will likely continue, if, a carrier doesnt have to be concerned due to no point value to be awarded to the carrier for this violation.

This was the veiw I chose to take when reading about this particular aspect of CSA2010. My veiw, includes, the idea that the new point tracking system favors drivers in different ways. This isnt one of the ways, in my opinion.

Thanks for the worthwhile debate.

 

tazz, if you go to the website i linked to, you would have seen IT IS the CSA2010 point/infraction/DOT, FMCSR rulings they are showing us.......not a "magazine article"........

whatever, you're way tooooo smart for some of us i guess.........

 

this will never work, and I DO MEAN, NEVER...........why......??

well we just DO NOT stick together. i had said this in another thread that at truck stops sitting at the counter or in the booths, or in our trucks talking on the cb radio, we all "talk the talk" but in the end......?? when we separate ourselves and get back to our respective trucks and such......??

we pretty much each say (to ourselves), "i ain't got the time, i got things to do, gotta get home, etc,etc, i'll let them other guys take care of it"...........

we ain't NEVER gonna stick with one another. good thought, idea from you, but it ain't ever gonna happen..........

 

It has already been agreed in the NAFTA agreement. It´s just a matter of time before they put it in effect.

U.S. Corporate farms destroyed the Mexican family farm under NAFTA, now the Mexican truck driver will put the nail in the wage coffin on what was a middle class occupation. American trucking.

Isn´t globalization wonderful?

 

That still isn't the entire story. All notations on an inspection count against the carrier, each and every violation goes into the carriers SMS.Only some ALSO count against the driver. Taking one column in a spreadsheet without explanation of what the column identifies leads to the very misconception I was referring to.

But as I said believe whatever you wish it's your career.

But the statement of "Some things only count against the driver" is wrong, and feeds this victim mentality pervading our industry in particular and society in general.

If someone could look past that mentality they would see a carrier is actually being held more accountable with the new system. More not less.

 

When the Federal Government started the CDL program, we were told many drivers would be weeded out, and our pay would increase. We were told traffic tickets obtained while driving a passenger vehicle would not count on a CDL license. When the new HOS rules were established we were told more money would be paid to drivers, since our availability would be decreased, creating less supply for the same demand.
And we are supposed to believe this 2010 program is going to help us ? We cannot even find out the complete rules for this new rating system. Just let us truck, if a problem is found, give us a spanking, but do not keep making new hoops for us to jump through.

 

Never ever heard that the CDL would be separate except in CB land. CDL's where instituted to stop people from carrying multiple licenses.


Mission accomplished.

I was never told new HOS would lead to a raise, except in CB land.


CSA2010 is not designed to get you a raise either(despite what some say in CB land) It is simply a new way to track violations for doing your job wrong, and keeping track of every violation a carrier receives in an inspection.