ELD question about "trip triggers"

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  1. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Qualcomm should stay out of the logging business....
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    2 different times, one for 12 mintues on duty and one for 18 minutes on duty, start driving and later check it, it recorded the whole time as driving, no on duty which makes me look like i left the customer without showing any work time like sliding tandems, doing paperwork etc closing doors.
     
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  4. STexan

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    Not sure about this. Maybe your company made such a change. I'm on omnitracs (Qualcomm) and just yesterday I drove considerably more than 2 miles and it did not come off of Off Duty status. All I had to do was shut truck off (at shipper) to preserve the status.

    What gets people in trouble is to begin moving then fail to turn off the truck to revert back. I think for most now, it must be turned off for at least 1 minute to preserve the original duty status.
     
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  5. KMac

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    I am with my third company in a row and all do it the same way, I know friends at other companies who also have the issue.

    It used to be that it didn't switch to line 3 until you drove over 2 miles or exceeded 22 mph. Now of you do not stop and either shut the truck off, or manually switch it to the drive line, it will revert back to when the truck started moving.
     
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  6. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Yes. This change came in about 3 months ago for all. The FMCSA required this change. But there are still ways to preserve the status as long as you don't travel beyond the fence set by your company.
     
  7. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

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    And who are you to tell a company what products that they should or should not offer?
     
  8. Brandt

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    The ELD starts tracking the second you move the truck. It does not log it untill about 2 miles. When it logs it, they back log to the second you started driving at 1:59. If you stop before 2 miles it won't show any driving time. If you stop and plan on driving agin within the 2 miles you better make sure the ELD also shows you stopped and not driving. Mine takes about 15 seconds to switch back. So if you only stop 10 second and the ELD now show 2 hours off and start driving again. When the ELD logs that, it will log back to 1:59 because the ELD never picked up you stopped
     
  9. x1Heavy

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    Qualcomm is a communications Satellite company of strategic importance to the United States. They are out of San Diego and their assets are most indespensible to the Nation and all of our Commerce. They have literally allowed ME, DEAF ME to make a living COMMUNICATING with DISPATCH with PRECISION previously unknown in the days of the telephone with a stack of quarters and all kinds of time WASTED with ERRORs that have to be seen to be believed.

    THIS Company, QUALCOMM has been my FREEDOM doing my work on the big road just about half of my life out there. They have done that with excellent and unmatched quality, stripping out bad words to protect sensitivie dispatchers, they have served me with Email fast enough to chat in real time. With family back home on the internet in real time. Cost me about 30 dollars that night in Mississippi, but it as far as Im concerned showed a bright future texting while fighting a Ice Storm with my family on their computers at home in the massive ice storm. Sometimes I asked for routing, and other information that they provided to me on that real time converstation via Satellite. This information was allowing ME to get out of Mississippi and conduct my load without screwing up or getting lost.

    Im going to put you on the ignore list.

    WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME what I should do with a Company that has provided ME a livelihood when Telephones DID NOT do very well.

    With that said.

    Combining the satellite information with hours of service and logging electronically STANDS to detect and violate SO MANY TENS of thousands, if not Hundreds of thousands in a massive flood of 10 to half hour violoations against themselves and result in a flood of revenue tickets and fines against them.

    WHO ARE YOU to be so primial and basic in your raw emotion and deliberate attempt to poke me with something like a silly comment about something I know very, very well what they can do or must not do.

    Ultimately I expressed an opinion. This is a free country. Unfortunately if you are not friends with me then there is the ignore list. I use it, so should you. That way we can keep away from each other here and continue to help people IN A POSITIVE WAY instead of sinking verbal knives and trying to provoke me.

    You will not be allowed to provoke me. The Moderators are very good here as well and I typed carefully tonight about your specific question as to what I thought of Qualcomm.

    I think this is all Im going to say here. And I hope... that everyone who reads this and THINKS about the coming era of the ELOGS that are already SHOWING FLAWS against the driver and against the company and against the SHipper and Reciever in a variety of ways imposed by our Government as the Law of the land.

    I view Elogs as a liability and when combined with the precision of Qualcomm's GPS system that can get down to inches or less in real time to your particular truck... you are going to be surprised at the monsters that can be created in new systems as a way to carefully and more completely ENFORCE against ME, YOU and your Brother and Sister Truckers lack of freedom and a constant state of inability to be at peace and follow a hours of service frame work that is working against us all.

    Do you NOT understand? I hope you do. I really do. For all of our sakes.

    I don't mind logs done right. I WANT people to rest when it's TIME TO REST but they must have the "Captian of the Ship" Freedoms that has been systematically taken from them over the last 22 years since CDL came in 1994.

    There is no more trust. You have a camera watching you for crying out loud as you do your job. That is not trust. That is a form of... cleansing for a company determined to weed out the weak and the tired.

    I love you all but you gotta understand the changes that are coming and are occuring very quickly this year.
     
  10. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    Appreciate the responses (well, most of them anyway). Will probably just forget about crawling anywhere on line 1 or 2 in the future, but if/when the need ever arises I'll set the brake and turn off the engine as soon as the 2-hour (or whatever) break is completed.

    As far as I know none of the ELD's I've ever used in the past were set up to convert minutes that were already recorded on line 1 or 2 to minutes on line 3 based on when the truck started crawling. Prior to mid-2015 my current company's ELD's used a really primitive method of recording: they simply took whatever line the unit was on at the top of every minute. And once they did, done deal---none of this tracking and backdating stuff to worry about. Was able to monitor when minutes were about to be recorded using a digital clock (that shows the second) on my smartphone.
     
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  11. Jumbo

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    Your initial quote was "Qualcom should stay out of the logging business". My response was "Who are you to tell a company what products they should or should not offer". I suppose Qualcom should have only stuck with satellite communications and never advanced their product line? They are supplying what people want. How dumb is it to have several different systems, made by different manufacturers, and try to tie them all together? And as far as you putting me on the "ignore" list. Big deal.
     
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