KW Dash Lights Go Off - NOT the dial

Discussion in 'Kenworth Forum' started by Kit76, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. Kit76

    Kit76 Bobtail Member

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    Running a 2013 KW T700. Company truck, but we just lost a whole weekend waiting on parts for something else and can't afford to miss this load. (Breakdown pay is a joke.)

    Had this problem once before, but then it fixed itself before the shop got to us, so we were told "Can't fix it unless it's broken."

    So now, once again, driving along and dash lights go out. The light on the jake and cruise buttons, as well as the speedometer and other gauges. Odometer and info box (where cruise speed and time display) still lit.

    If hadn't come back on before, I would have assumed a fuse.

    Anyone else have this issue or have any ideas on causes?

    Much appreciated.
     
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  3. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    my 2011 700 has done this twice and came back on
    hasn't happened in about 9 months
     
  4. Sublime

    Sublime Road Train Member

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    Our older trucks with the new-style dash have started to show this problem and it turns out there's a control module that goes bad.
     
  5. Kit76

    Kit76 Bobtail Member

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    We seem to have found the problem and made a temporary fix. The ACC Relay (in the fuse box) was really hot. We pulled it, let it cool off a bit, then reinstalled it and the lights came back on.

    We're going to replace the relay when we get to the next shop.
     
  6. craggy1982

    craggy1982 Light Load Member

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    if your relay got hot you have a wiring problem somewhere more than likely. something is making that relay get hot. a bare wire somewhere shorting out more than likely.
     
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  7. 12 ga

    12 ga THE VIEW FROM MY OFFICE

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    My 2010 w900 had same issue, went to KW dealer, ECM needed update fixed the dash lights and a cruise control issue.
     
  8. Cfifteen

    Cfifteen Bobtail Member

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    I found that on mine with the older style dash, I would get a flicker then my speedo lights would go out. Then again on my Rpm gauge. I replaced the lights and more importantly the sockets, and have not had the problem since.
    Hope it works the same for you, as it's a cheaper fix.

    Cheers,

    *Edited* Sorry, didn't read the first part about it being a 2013 unit. :neutral:
     
  9. kwcam

    kwcam Light Load Member

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    On the 2007 and up KW's the dash lights, interior lights are controlled by the cecu, the computer behind the cup holder. Some times when the lights go out if you pull the 3 fuse's labeled cecu, let it sit for a minute then reinstall them the lights will come back on. should be two 15 amp and one 5 amp.
     
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  10. Oilfieldmike

    Oilfieldmike Medium Load Member

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    My solution was the turn signal stalk on the steering wheel

    It seems the power for the dash lights and gauges goes through the turn signal mechanism on the steering wheel

    I had the following symptoms

    Dash lights out but speedometer and rpm gauge worked

    Gauges did not cycle when key turned on

    Info screen above the speedo and rpm gauge worked but the select wheel would not change the information

    Turn signal bar loose.

    How I figured it out was the cecu 15 amp fuse was blown. It sat for awhile with the fuse out . Replaced the fuse and all worked but the lights above the lights, cruise, etc..

    Opened the door and pop. Closed door, replaced fuse. All back on

    Giggled the turn signal bar and pop. I was told back when that the light power was routed through the turn signal bar so I immediately released that had to be it

    Replaced the turn signal switch, replaced fuses, all works again

    Update... fuse popped again going down the road. I think I am going in the right direction. If the truck is stationary and no problem it's gotta be a loose wire that vibrates and shorts going down the road.
     
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  11. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Had it happen a couple times on my back in 2011. Did have a rain leak dripping down on the dash and soaking into the defroster vents for probably a year before I bought the truck. Had it in the shop for some other work but when I pretripped the truck before leaving the dashlights were out again and had them rip into the dash and fix whatever before I would leave.
     
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