yuppers I got on with LS about 5 weeks ago and am now officially INWAY, their basic score was above 60% on the fatigue issue .I didnt have to be on eobr since I put my app in earlier to not be mandatory but I took the free one right out of orientation and its been ok. Dont do a log anymore and have only gotten green lights so far. I see eobr's only being a bonus in the future if we cant move as much freight in a shorter time because its expected we can push things with paper logs then when demand to move more freight comes into play for reduced truck avaliability due to everybody running actual legal times then maybe rates will go up to compete for truck time. Just a thought.
Landstar Offering Free EOBR's
Discussion in 'Landstar' started by LSAgentOZR, Aug 4, 2012.
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I do agree with this opinion, as I have been thinking the same thing for a couple years now.
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I also concur with the opinion. VR, welcome to the family. Be sure to get in touch with me with your contact info so I can add you to our load list.
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Landstar CSA at least with Inway is at the threshold of being out of compliance. What I understand it the the EOBDR are now manditory for anyone coming on to Landstar now. Those with Landstar like myself have a option right now unless they get log violations or are repeat offenders of CSA violations. To me when you look at how Landstar runs. I do not questions they will have some who simply cannot stay in log compliance and I question if the EOBDR will help or hurt this problem. Landstar has a lot of freight that ends up being JIT even if its not. As freight is weak I myself find it hard to turn down loads simply because of hours. I do however simply because I don't care to be in violation. I don't plan to put a EOBDR in my truck until it becomes manditory. For no other reason then why should I pay even $15 to $20 for a service I pay nothing for now by just sending in logs. It won't make me more money and in fact it costs me money. Its still about $200 a year for logging? That to me is kind of high. So far their is no other services offered as Landstar talks about maybe Fuel tax State to State mileage, GPS maps (legal issues there). Maybe internet. All for obviously additional charges.
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Rates go up with freight volumes go up. No other reason for them to go up. You might see regional spot activity where truck availability is short and that EOBDR might in a small way affect rates. But in those areas rates would spike anyway. What I believe EOBDR will do is eliminate to all nighter drivers and the ones who totally ignore log hours. Otherwise most might fidge a hour or two and with fuel tickets and toll tickets being clocked already. I don't see much happening with rates. I do see some loads having to be reconfigured and dedicated routes that have you log book miles rather then actual driving times will be affected. My gripe that EOBDR won't have the affect on wait times at shippers and receivers that it should. Maybe some will log that time properly so that we can get some proof of bad shippers. Maybe even create a list of lousy wait times.
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The EOBR is a violation of our rights to privacy. They will not be able to mandate that our trucks have an electronic device that records our daily activity. It would be the same as if every person who works in this country would be forced to have a device on their person that tracked their minute to minute activities to ensure that they are well rested and that their time was spent wisely according to goverment regulations. As far as manipulating the logs with an EOBR goes. I guarantee it! If it is a computer it will be manipulated. There is no doubt about it, unless you are tracked via satellite through Qualcomm or PeopleNet and then the information is stored on their servers and not your truck.
This is where we have a violation to our rights to privacy. I am not letting some tracking service know where I load and unload. Which customers I service. How much they pay me. How much I pay for fuel. How much my truck weighs when I leave the customer. etc. etc. etc.
Anyone who accepts these EOBR's because they are a convenience today is just selling themselves out tomorrow. Any freight agent who is denying loads to people because they don't have an EOBR is no one I want to work with anyway. 99% of the non operators in this industry have never and will never be operators. If you are a broker or freight agent, you should be working with us operators to stop the EOBR's. Unless you are an operator of heavy equipment and live out here on the road for weeks at a time out of your life, your opinion about EOBR's should align with the people who do work and live on the road. This goes for freight brokers, trucking company owners, maintenance departments, the FMCSA, the DOT, and EVERYONE ELSE who seems to want to control the operator's lives instead of working with us.
All truck drivers and equipment operators need to join the OOIDA- no excuses- and do it today or tomorrow, but DO IT and get on board with their program. There is no one else out there looking out for our rights and if you hold a CDL, you need to join and keep your membership current. Donate to their PAC (Political Action Committee), participate in their "Call to Action" campaigns and spread the word to all of your fellow drivers and operators that they need to join. OOIDA is the only group fighting these violations of our rights. The ONLY ONE.
EOBR's will benefit one group and one group only. Qualcomm. It is a locked in mandate to use a service and a piece of equipment that you have to purchase and maintain a monthly service fee and it has NO BASIS for existence. Paper Logs have worked for decades without fail. The FMCSA has been trying to push these EOBR's for over 20 years and they have failed everytime. Why have they been pushing them?
Safety Groups who think that EOBR's will end all accidents (They wont and there have been no studies to support this claim) and companies like Qualcomm who stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars off of equipment and service fees which you can't avoid because it will be mandatory. Whoever is pushing these things has forgotten about our Constitutional Rights here in the USA, and they think we are stupid and that we wont do anything about it. OOIDA says that these people who think this, ARE WRONG. You decide.
Do you want your livelihood and industry to be overrun with greedy political corporations who will easily mandate EOBR's controlling your every move? Or will you collectively use the power of the Constitution which you have because your father, his father, and all of the fathers before him (and their wives) fought and died so you could have rights to live by and be a free American? Satellite tracked EOBR's are not American. They do not belong on American trucks and they should be stopped. I will follow in my forefather's footsteps and stand up for what's right in America. My 4th Amendment Rights to Privacy.volvodriver01 Thanks this. -
Here we go again! Yada, yada, yada. You have your right to privacy, at home, in your private life. It does not apply to a commercial vehicle that you have signed the control over to another entity, operating in a public setting.
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why not? would you expect the same complete and total disregard if you worked in a factory setting? how about that carpenter that works out of his pickup? It's really a commercial vehicle. The travelling sales man who can't seem to stay under 15 over the speed limit.
You can keep adding to that list. They are commercially on the road as much as a CDL driver. Why aren't they facing the same overbearing rules.volvodriver01 Thanks this. -
Could it be because there is no Federal Agency charged with regulating them, by Congress, since the 1930s?
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the goverment can do and will do what they want. Is it right no but it iswhat it is.
Every commercial fishing boat in the country has monitored devices tracking the boats location, targeted species, etc
No one on the planet is more independent then a commercial fisherman
after 38 years owning boats I was forced out so do not ever believe it wont happen here
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