"Load Cancelled" game...

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by valerchekk, Mar 29, 2020.

  1. valerchekk

    valerchekk Light Load Member

    Feb 8, 2014
    I'm reposting this from a Facebook group.

    So a guy books reefer load with Leonards Express going from Lake Wales, Fl to Green Bay, Wi for $3000. Almost 1400 miles, decent rate in my opinion.
    9:22am he gets the rate confirmation.
    9:40am broker calls him and says that the customer just cancelled this load.
    10:20am he receives new rate con from Leonards Express for the same load that was supposed to be cancelled 40 mins ago. Broker somehow managed to forward new rate con to the wrong person.

    Apparently, the load was never cancelled and these crooks from Leonards Express just continued to search for "el-cheapo" carrier. And they found it. For $1600.

    Now, I've seen quite a few threads with a similar subject posted on this forum over the past few years. But I've never seen the actual numbers. Can you imagine how much money these scumbags from Leonards Express made off of nothing? Wow.
    And I totally understand that it is idiots like HARPERS HOT SHOT TRUCKING LLC out of Wichita Falls, TX, let brokers play these dirty games with the rest of us and keep the rates in the toilet.

    Drive safe guys and #SayNOtoCheapFreight 91352653_2584899858464084_340696910660632576_n.jpg 91293050_2584899855130751_4480104433979490304_n.jpg
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

    Sep 10, 2010
    Flint, MI
    To be fair, they did change the receiver window so that might have triggered the cancellation....
    Still, scummy of them, but I really don't blame them either. Who would willingly give away money when someone else will race to lower the rates?
  4. F4T6UY

    F4T6UY Medium Load Member

    Oct 24, 2017
    Very South Texas
    Just a question from a company driver that doesn’t understand this side of the business: Once the rate con is agreed upon and sent to you, it would seem like that’s a binding contract or something. Is there really nothing illegal about this sort of thing? That’s just the way it is?

    I mean, I understand free market and everybody’s right to save a dollar, but seems slimy to me.
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  5. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

    Apr 26, 2013
    Gettin' down westbound
    Put them on the #### you list
  6. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

    Aug 30, 2009
    I saw that too. Small world out here
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  7. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

    Aug 8, 2009
    Meadville, PA
    Happens quite a bit. This is why I never count a load until it's on my deck and secured.

    One of the advantages to signing your truck onto a carrier with contract freight is that I get generally fewer cancellations due to broker games. Playing the Spot Market is like playing a volatile Stock Market. Yes, you can make some good money, but you can also lose your shirt.
  8. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

    May 28, 2015
  9. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

    Mar 19, 2014
    Newport, Ar
    Easy. Just call hot shot logistics, and send the original to him.
    He has to take it, but then all the way he will know how much he lost on the entire ride.
    Already he is doing it for around $1.15-$1.16/mile, but he’ll know what he could’ve got.
    It’s not really him, it’s the broker FL rates are usually cheap, but I wouldn’t have taken it with a dry box, let alone a refer
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  10. valerchekk

    valerchekk Light Load Member

    Feb 8, 2014
    I know FL rates are cheap. And they will be cheap. As long as there are idiots like Hot Shot Trucking LLC that are willing to do $1/mile reefer loads.
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2020
  11. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

    Apr 12, 2016
    Speaking as a devil's advocate, they cancelled it 8 minutes later, not when the truck was at the shipper already. It most likely did not cost the original carrier anything.
    The very cancellation would not be as upsetting, if we did not see the difference by which the second carrier undercut the original rate.
    Many of us would do the same in the reverse direction...when you offered $1400 more on the same lane by a by a different broker and they still have time to recover it.

    That's still deplorable but it is what it is.

    I don't know what reefers out of anywhere in FL to Green Bay, WI are getting paid but for a dry van this rate $1600 would be at least considered, and I guarantee you that if the consideration were too long someone else would beat you to it. This is not a lane on which you make money.
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