Load securement pet Fmcsa requirement

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  1. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    His question was answered according to the regs, he needed the answers in cornbread instead of lawyerspeak.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Most hold the OSOW permit upside down as they try to read it. But eventually, you run into that one. An A game driver can see bad securement from a half mile away. That A Game diesel bear can too. Bad securement gets his attention. Then, he asks a question that you won’t know unless you read the permit, regs in 393.100 or the provision sheet. If he sees that you didn’t do your homework, he’ll probably burn you.

    At the scale at LimonCO, there was such a bear. I had 3 escorts. We all had to go inside. He nailed one of my pilot cars for not having commercial vehicle insurance. I didn’t catch that. We had to stay at the scale until the pilot car produced CMV insurance. Now I know. Had one in AZ on i40 that came out and measured one of my pilot car’s wheelbase. Had never seen one do that before, BUT it’s in the provisions.
     
  4. mitmaks

    mitmaks Road Train Member

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    This machine is 16k lbs so would I need to secure 8k pulling backwards and 6960 pulling it forward? As per 5.g and .435 g 16k x .5 is 8,000 and 16k x . 435 is 6960.
     

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  5. Razororange

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    Does it have the articulation lock bar in the middle installed? If so 4 3/8 chains, 1 on each corner, is good. If the lock bar isn't there you need to have chains attached in a way that prevents articulation.

    The 0.435, 0.5, and 0.25 g numbers apply to the WLL requirements not the weight of the machine.

    With your 4 point chains you have enough pulling in every direction. Even if they are 5/16 chain with the WLL cut in half you have 4,700 pulling in every direction. Looks like you also have a couple extra on there to cover the requirement to prevent articulation.

    Like I said above. If you are 4 pointing a machine like that and have the correct amount to cover 50% of the weight by WLL you will almost always have enough to cover the directional pull requirements from 393.102.
     
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    That’s one of my peeves, a couple of extra securements gives me a peace of mind and not second guessing. :cool:
     
  7. Razororange

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    Man I get on my buddy who works for a local construction company about it all the time. These guys are over there using 5/8 G100 chain so they can throw 6 chains on a 120K wheel loader.

    I usually secure to near 100% of the piece weight by WLL. Id rather throw a few extra chains and be sure it isn't moving than try to save 15 minutes
     
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    80% of 16000 is 12800. So, officially it’s 8k forward, 12,8 rear.
     
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    No it's not. You are applying the breaking strength numbers to to total weight of the piece.

    How he has that machine is 100% legal. He needs 4,000 pulling back and 3,480 pulling forward.

    Yall need to just secure for Agregate WLL requirements and 4 pointing the machine. 393.102 is stupid and causing unnecessary confusion. If you meet the aggregate WLL with 4 point tiedowns you have enough.

    @mitmaks you are good the way you have it.
     
  10. mitmaks

    mitmaks Road Train Member

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    It might be stupid but if dot guy pulls me over and uses 393.102 I'd be OOS until I get more chains on
     
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    You won't but good luck.
     
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