Managing a Fill Dirt Dump Site

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  1. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    put a mailbox out here with some ticket books, “No get paid unless we get copy of paperwork.”
     
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  3. REO6205

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    Make sure you can get compaction to local pre-build specs several feet below the surface. Also, if you can't have somebody there every minute you're open you'll soon become host to all kinds of material you never envisioned. Old mattresses, old rugs...with and without bodies rolled up in them, wall boards, treated lumber, empty pesticide containers, car bodies if the scrap market is low, you think it up and somebody will dump it on your property. Once you're identified as the receiver for all kinds of questionable materials you'll spend most of your days talking to bureaucratic underlings whose sense of humor was surgically removed at time of hire. Don't laugh, these people will cost you money. Lots of money. Especially, don't laugh at them. They take it personally.
    I know all this because I spent five years trying to fill in some reclaimed wetland that a kind hearted relative left me in his will. We tried to cheap it out too with disastrous results. The wetland was in the southern part of the state, I live up by the Oregon border. Lots of flying back and forth. I'd rather have teeth pulled than fly into anywhere in L,A. After the third MS13 gang member had been unrolled from his carpet and the last empty five gallon pesticide containers hauled off and the bills from the specialized trucking company that removed the contaminated dirt and trucked it to Nevada I gave up and hired an environmental remediation company to deal with it. They did a fine job. They cost me, almost to the exact dollar, what I made from the land when I sold it to the City of Riverside.
    One way or another, you're going to pay to fill in that land. Why not do it the way that aggravates you the least and won't have the people from the Alphabet Agencies calling you all day.
     
  4. TurkeyCreekJackJohnson

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    Gate guard who knows what to accept and how to run a loader. No loads dumped unless inspected. No pay until after the load has been handled. Anything "unsuitable or sketchy", they hual back. At a minimum rent a grizzly with a 2" or 3" screen. Rent a loader and sift incoming loads and if possible a use vibratory sheep's foot roller to fill in your depression using 3-6 inch lifts/layers or you could have foundation issues due to improper compaction. If you'll be required to have an compaction analysis by a soils engineer prior to building you could fail those compaction/soil stability tests.
     
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  5. hlboyles

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    So normally are the drivers required to fill out these tickets or is it done by the on site person?
     
  6. hlboyles

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    Thank you for the informative and entertaining story (for me at least, not for you!). This is going to be a 2 or 3 year project so I'm hoping to get started off on the right foot. If we can't arrange to have someone there all the time, I'm wondering if we could set up a ticket printing kiosk with cameras and two way audio to monitor the loads. We could record video/pics of the driver, load, license plate, etc. to help mitigate the trash dumping.

    As far as compacting the fill dirt goes, only about a quarter acre of land total will have two houses built on it, so we will start compacting any fill dirt in those areas when get close to the building envelopes. I'll verify with engineers to make sure we do that right.
     
  7. hlboyles

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    Very important point. We will be working with geotechnical engineers to ensure we do the areas around the building envelopes/driveways with the proper lifts and compaction equipment.
     
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  8. TexasKGB

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    You are trying to make extra money by depending on construction companies and waste haulers to do the right thing; while also taking on no overhead, receiving free fill dirt, and managing everything with a ticket printer.


    Read that again.
     
  9. TurkeyCreekJackJohnson

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    This right here 100%

    In other words if you blink, they dump their trash and you get stuck with it. Don't trust them.
     
  10. REO6205

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    He'll learn. Or he won't. I don't think I'd allow free lance dumping without having a guy there to ride herd on the whole thing. The deal with the cameras and the card readers and such might sound good but I'd want a big mean SOB who'd stand his ground and not let trash dumpers and enviro-pirates screw up the job site
     
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  11. TurkeyCreekJackJohnson

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    Big 10-4!
     
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