Managing your HOS to avoid 34 hour reset?

tinytim · Sep 16, 2016

scottied67 said: ↑

People keep saying limit your time to 8.75 per day. True for 8 days. But paydays are every 7 days. So it makes more sense and better paychecks to run 10 hours every day. On the 8th day you take 24 hours off and pick up the 10 hours a day off recaps again. In essence a 24 has become a 34. Gets you back out and running 10 hours sooner and 7 times 10 times 60 = 4200 miles is a whole lot better paycheck than 7 times 8.75 times 60 = 3675 miles.
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So you get 70 hours in one payday and 61.25 hours in most paydays. How does that make better paychecks? In the long run it equals the same.

bamalife123 · Sep 16, 2016

I don't know if someone's mentioned it but try trans am instead of Carolina I got felony's and they gave me a job not great by no means but better than 10 cent a Mile by far. Good luck

Winnyf1 · Sep 16, 2016

tucker said: ↑

Carolina Cargo is great for getting a start, do your time and move on to a trucking job where you can make decent money.
CC is going to be miserable, everything will be bad, but you'll get experience to move on.
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If you think you'll be the person that thrives there, you're wrong and won't last..
CC is akin to being raped in a prison shower every day. Just accept it and plan your next company.
I met a new Crete driver, he got out of actual prison, did a year at CC and moved here.(Crete)
I asked him if it was as bad as they say, the look in his eyes, phew! But he said nothing bad, only that they gave him a chance, when no one else would.
I hope the CC lovers don't bash me
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Or mug you...seriously good advice, everyone has to start somewhere, however explore all options before locking down on one.

scottied67 · Sep 16, 2016

tinytim said: ↑

So you get 70 hours in one payday and 61.25 hours in most paydays. How does that make better paychecks? In the long run it equals the same.
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Just offering an alternative to the people saying 8.75 hours a day. My way is a happy medium with one day off between being barely productive and being super productive and having to stop for a day and half.

There's a je ne sais quoi dynamic about running 10 hours a day over 8.75 and that is dispatchers will appreciate a driver whose stats are showing to be just a little more productive.

mattschwartz01 · Sep 16, 2016

bamalife123 said: ↑

I don't know if someone's mentioned it but try trans am instead of Carolina I got felony's and they gave me a job not great by no means but better than 10 cent a Mile by far. Good luck
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TransAm isn't a bad option but you will be doing LOTS of trailer swaps. They generally have good equipment with APUs too. Not a bad place to get started. I started there but I really don't like dealing with reefers. I can't sleep when the #### thing is running.

arubajim · Feb 9, 2017

Friday said: ↑

So, let's do some simple math (which has been done on this forum before) to see if running on recaps vs a reset is more profitable.

We're going to use 60mph as the average speed. Math is the same no matter the speed used, and 60mph is easy.

Also, we're going to use 15 min for pre trip and 5 min for post trip every day. Ignore fueling and talking to the pretty lady at the guard shack on duty time, this is for the math only.

So, first driver is driving for a full 11 hours every day. His company doesn't care if he parks on the shoulder of the interstate or in the median. He drives the full clock. With pre and post trip, that's 11.33 hours every day. He runs out of hours on day 6 and uses 67.98 hours of his clock. Since he drove for 66 hours at 60 mph, he drove 3960 miles. He uses day 7 to reset and is back on the road. In 4 weeks (28 days) he's able to drive (66 x 4 x 60) 15840 miles.

Second driver is running recaps. He knows he has to work exactly 8.75 hours a day to never run out of hours. With the pre trip and post trip, that leaves him with 8hr and 25min to drive every day. At 60mph he drives 505 miles a day. 3535 miles a week. In 28 days this driver is able to drive 14140 miles.

Third driver is working at a company that does care about parking on shoulders. It has to be safe and legal and he better drive as far as possible until he finds it. So he drives 6 days, same as the first driver, but parks after 10.5 hours of driving every day. Using the same math as the first guy, the third guy is able to drive 630 miles a day. Since he's using day 7 to reset (even though he has more than 5 hours left on his 70) he is driving 3780 miles a week. 15120 miles in 28 days.

So, that's a lot to read. But what it shows is that the first and third guy are getting more miles. It also should point out that the first and third guy do have hours to fuel and check in at shippers since they both still have hours left on 70.

Anyhow. The reset is good for you. If you're able to run your hours out to take one, do it. But it doesn't always work out like that.
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Wouldn't the second driver be driving 30 or 31 days because of no reset?
Logging another 1010 to 1515 miles?

G13Tomcat · Feb 9, 2017

Gonna be another "right hand turn" thread, LoL~!

Friday · Feb 9, 2017

arubajim said: ↑

Wouldn't the second driver be driving 30 or 31 days because of no reset?
Logging another 1010 to 1515 miles?
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Well, 28 days is there to make the math easier at 4 weeks exactly. The first and third driver can also keep going 30 or 31 days and getting more miles

RedRover · Feb 10, 2017

Now that I'm OTR and it's no longer theoretical, I just drive for however long is required to make the loads I'm dispatched under. I don't even pay attention to my 70 until I'm nearing the end of it and then do the required gymnastics to make the last load or two.

I've yet to have the ideal week where the freight allowed me to continue driving all of 70 hours with a 15 minute "pretrip" and all that. I usually start my clock for the day, go buy a red bull, have a smoke and take a leak. Turn on my lights, make sure nobody released my tandems or my kingpin and head on down the road. Average it about 22 minutes. That way when DOT look at my logs, it's less suspicious than always doing a 15.

It really depends on what kind of time constraints I am under though. Here in 6 hours, I'll be logging my 15 after creeping off duty to the fuel island, while I'm fueling, and then get to the consignee with not a second to spare. Should be exciting. Tune in next week...

arubajim · Feb 14, 2017

Starboyjim said: ↑

As mentioned above, that 70 hour time is for driving AND on-duty entries. I like running on my recap, since I just really hate sitting around for a day and a half when I'm out. I like to reset at home where I can relax, do some domestic stuff, maybe have some fun. Every driver has to run his own clocks, and dividing 70/8 you get that 8.75 hrs/day. Don't forget, that's an average not a goal. 8.75x62mph average yields about 550 miles/day. That's not bad, 550 miles/day average yields 3,850 miles/week. Average. If you can get that as an average, you'll be a very successful truck driver.

See above for my reasons, Truck. The only thing I want to do out there is drive my truck, make some money, head for home. I don't like truck stops, or rest areas, and it's hard to buy fishing licenses in all these dang states.
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A lot of states do not require fishing licenses if you use a cane pole, a collapsable fiberglass pole should make you a happy camper!

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