Prepare for the storm because after the ELD and Speed Limit mandates are done, FMCSA will have to find a new raison d'etre. That being truck drivers getting proper rest. There will be a big push for sleep apnea testing and properly logging sleeper time crackdown. All thanks to that driver who ran over Tracy Morgan's limo.
Imagine a driver who was logged Sleeper 3 days or even 3 months ago and got into a fatality crash. The lawyer goes through the logs and finds the driver had swiped their debit card and now they have proof the driver falsified their logs. This is how a driver can end up in prison for not logging that pee break.![]()
Max time you spend in sleeper birth?
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Cool. Over 100 posts. Wonder if we'll get this one up to 1800 too.
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Never
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Any lawyer could walk a jury through any truck stop parking lot and prove all truckers pee on the blacktop beside the steps they climb up into the truck on.
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Just for the record, I've had my elog gone through by an AzDOT officer during a level 2 a few months ago. He knew how to work the QC. He went back the 8 days provided on the QC. He didn't care if I used off duty or sleeper berth for my 10 hr break as long I was taking my 10's. He didn't ask what I did during that break. Didn't ask if I went to go pee and didn't ask what time I went to bed or where I slept. He wanted to see that I doing my 10's like I'm suppose to. Getting the proper rest before driving again is on the driver and is part of being adult.
If you get into a crash, weather or not you played the off duty/sleeper game every time you stepped out of the truck is going to be the least of your worries. They are going to everything they can to pin it on the driver and your logbook isn't going to save you if it isn't your fault. You log book could be perfect (and nobody here can say they run a perfect logbook as everyone fudges something here and there) and unless you have undeniable proof that it isn't your fault, your going down. -
Not only that, but false logs are not about potty breaks. False logs are about your logs showing you are in Texas but your actually in Arizona. This is what plaintiffs attorneys are getting major $$$$$ from.
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This is just getting silly now. They changed the rules a few years ago from saying that you could not take more than 2 hours of Off-Duty in the truck to saying you could not do more than 2 hours of Off-Duty in a moving truck (see 395.2(4)(iii)). After that change the Sleeper provision really only applies to team drivers now.
Notice how 395.1(g) (Sleeper berths) part (A) (“Must, before driving, accumulate”) has 4 options for meeting its requirement so there are options to using the sleeper berth…..
(1) At least 10 consecutive hours off duty;
(2) At least 10 consecutive hours of sleeper-berth time;
(3) A combination of consecutive sleeper-berth and off-duty time amounting to at least 10 hours; or
(4) The equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off duty if the driver does not comply with paragraph (g)(1)(i)(A)(1), (2), or (3) of this section;
So 10 hours of consecutive off duty meet its requirements and there are no rules requiring me to use a sleeper.
I just log Off Duty now, never Sleeper and I have never had anyone question me on it.
How is a DOT officer going to prove I slept in the sleeper rather than in the passenger’s seat?
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You should block me
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I don't know you and would like to see you succeed it's just like you are spamming the forum some that's all.
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And I apologize with pnuemonia and breaking my jaw in 2 places have drove me crazy.Lepton1 Thanks this.
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