New business idea

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by darren90909, Jun 18, 2022.

  1. darren90909

    darren90909 Bobtail Member

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    We have both trucking authority and household good authority, our niche is long-distance moving. In our area, we are well known and have to turn down long-distance moves in the summertime because we are booked up. Obviously, long-distance moving pays way better than broker freight.

    My idea is to create a website similar to internet truckstop or DAT but for the self-loading/unloading moving industry. To compete with ABF U-Pack, PODS, Pack-Rat, U-Box, and Smartbox.

    For a 53ft trailer, we currently charge $7.60 per mile hauling household goods, we turn down work at this rate in the summer because we are booked up. At the moment we average around $3.00 a mile hauling general dry van freight.

    It is my understanding that a trucking company can legally haul household goods as long as they are not involved in any part of the loading/unloading. Also, an average trucking company does not have household goods cargo insurance but most homeowner's or renter's insurance covers catastrophic events such as the truck tipping over or catching on fire (my homeowner's insurance does). And since the trucking company is not involved in loading/unloading there would be no liability for scratched or broken items.

    A family member of mine was recently quoted $11,000 for 2 PODS (16ft each) to go from San Diego to Houston. At our current rate of $7.60 per mile, it is at $11,000 but we provide a 53ft van.

    Some concerns would be:

    Since we would be taking a percent of the $7.60 do we need broker authority? Not sure how that would work since you can look at it two ways 1. The trucking company is paying us a percentage or 2. The moving customer would be paying us a percentage. If broker authority is needed not a problem.

    It's much more complicated than what I am posting but this is the basics, I am aware I need an attorney if I decide to proceed. I have had my own operating authority for 30 years and am knowledgeable in the moving industry running our own trucks, this is a brokers forum so you would know more than me.

    All I can say is that it's an idea, be factual but kind.

    Darren








     
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  3. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    The PODS are pretty popular for a lot of folks. The daily rate until picked up is reasonable and you get to gradually unload and set up residence, rather than one 53’ trailer.

    Can’t always access some places with a 53 and tractor.

    Just thinking.
     
  4. darren90909

    darren90909 Bobtail Member

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    Good thought and I agree
     
  5. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    San Diego to Houston, 1500 miles. $7.33/mile.

    Is load/unload or even trans load included in that? How much time is equipment tied up?
     
  6. darren90909

    darren90909 Bobtail Member

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    At the moment I am thinking 24 hours to load and 24 hours to unload with an hourly fee if it takes longer. Comparing it with today's load board rates for dry van I would gladly do it for that. Once again, it's a long shot and these are all ideas.
     
  7. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    I could see it being a problem getting a 53 into a lot of neighborhoods. I’ve never been in the household moving world, my question would be what options are available for loading and unloading if getting to the houses isn’t an option?
     
  8. REO6205

    REO6205 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    It sounds like that particular niche is already full of competent, well equipped, and well experienced companies.
     
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  9. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    Set of pups would be the answer. Power only or waiting compensation and empty return rate. Including all miles, whether dropping elsewhere or bringing back. I think it’s a great idea. Looks like ABF is successful with it. But they have a terminal system. Return freight with pups would be tough.I wouldn’t know where to start.
     
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  10. Kenworth6969

    Kenworth6969 Road Train Member

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    Are we really comparing a POD to a Dry Van trip?
    What a joke.

    Two different universes.
     
  11. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    As someone who worked for Allied Van Lines in the 80’s, here’s my opinion.

    Your regular 53’ dry van is deck is way too high. Even owning one myself, I’d never consider using it if I were to move.

    Either get a proper moving van or don’t bother. You’ll just end up buried in medical claims.
     
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